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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sun, 24 July 2005 22:37
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You have done well there Wilbo !!!
I was going to take mine apart as well, but in the abscenec of a spare one, decided against it.
I too am a wiring wally, but what I have done so far seems to work OK. Just need to sort out the Batt light in the dash and I'm home and hosed. Then comes the cryuise control !!!! The bits that I need are on the way from the States !!
Cheers
Michael B
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 25 July 2005 00:57
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bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 25 July 2005 08:37 |
I too am a wiring wally...
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Ay who you calling a wally! I think I'm sorting the wiring out very nicely
I just don't like counting my chickens before they have hatched hehe
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 01:38
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Time for another update...
Thought I would take a bit of a look at mounting the intercooler
Due to finical reasons *cough* it looks like nice intercooler pipes may have to wait for a little while...on the upside I had a fair bit of fun playing plastic lego / mechano with the various inlet piping connections that I have collected in my travels There is some 5me, 2se, jzz30 and other random pipes haha.
I'm amazed at how I managed to get something that looks like it will fit really well (it's not bling, and I'm not sure how it will go with the boost, but hey I'll give it a try...)
The aircon stuff has been removed at this point in time (the routing of the metal line is stupid in my opinion!), but I would quite like aircon one day so it will be on my list of things to sort out at a later date There is still plenty of room to get the required lines through. You can see that the piping comes out through the hose a treat on the passenger side (haven't tackled the drivers side yet, due to the turbos not being fitted yet )
Then it was onto mounting the intercooler.
I just used some alloy bar drilled and bent accordingly (haven't gotten around to doing the lower mount as yet. I'm thinking I may change the alloy that bolts to the top of the intercooler to right angle to give it a bit more strength, but I'm not too sure...I also think I'd rather have the bracket give way in the event that I hit something (rather that smashing the intercooler!). I also made up a new support for the bonnet latch, again just out of the small alloy (not pictured).
Slowly slowly it is getting there
Dumps/twinpipes are 99% ready (just waiting on information from me!) so once I get them on I think things will start really coming together!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 01:50
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Looking really good there Wilbo.
I like the supprt method for the IC (screwdriver box).
Be a bit careful in how low you mount the IC - JCMF has already found that out. The lowest point on any of mine is the piping, and this is on the same plane as the bottom face of the x-member.
Leaving it alloy colour ? I'm going to paint mine black to go a bit stealth !!!
Cheers
Michael B
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 02:15
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This is looking really good Wilbo. Seems like you really know what you are doing re wiring!
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 07:03
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bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 11:50 | Looking really good there Wilbo.
I like the supprt method for the IC (screwdriver box).
Be a bit careful in how low you mount the IC - JCMF has already found that out. The lowest point on any of mine is the piping, and this is on the same plane as the bottom face of the x-member.
Leaving it alloy colour ? I'm going to paint mine black to go a bit stealth !!!
Cheers
Michael B
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Yep intercooler support method is very ghetto, on top of a battery with screwdriver box (and notice the abundance of black tape there? The intercooler was also resting on top of the rolls of black tape duing the proceedings lol
I am a little worried about how low it sits, but it's as high up as I can mount it and still be able to run the pipes straight out the sides
I'm not the biggest fan of paint really (chips off etc), so I'll prbly just give it a light polish and leave it at that. (yeah I know that black things are better radiators, but meh! I'll sacrifice it for bling lol)
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 08:07
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How low is the cooler from the ground? Mine is 170mm and you have seen how steep my driveway is. No scrapage at all
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 09:34
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Wilbo: How come you didnt just bend those vertical brackets straight to the intercooler mount, whats the idea behind the horizontal bar?
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 10:18
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Skip wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 19:34 | Wilbo: How come you didnt just bend those vertical brackets straight to the intercooler mount, whats the idea behind the horizontal bar?
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The horizontal bar is the lazyness / easyness factor. It's much easier (for a retard like me at least!) to bend straight bends rather than angled bends (esp when your work shop *cough* or lack thereof is taken into account). I don't even have a vice where I work on the car...
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 10:24
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Chris Davey wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 18:07 | How low is the cooler from the ground? Mine is 170mm and you have seen how steep my driveway is. No scrapage at all
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haha, it's about a battery + 2cm's (screwdriver case ) above the ground
Cheers
Wilbo
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 10:25
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bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 09:50 | Be a bit careful in how low you mount the IC - JCMF has already found that out. The lowest point on any of mine is the piping, and this is on the same plane as the bottom face of the x-member.
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Although my looking at the pictures you sent me, the difference between mine and yours looks questionable.
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 10:33
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justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 20:25 |
bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 09:50 | Be a bit careful in how low you mount the IC - JCMF has already found that out. The lowest point on any of mine is the piping, and this is on the same plane as the bottom face of the x-member.
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Although my looking at the pictures you sent me, the difference between mine and yours looks questionable.
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OK people stop being gay and show me your intercooler pics / mounts!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 12:44
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I hope you don't want to see mine. Yours looks pretty good compared to mine Just a bracket from each side horizontal which bends and goes across the top of the intercooler and bolted on there.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 01 August 2005 22:10
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justcallmefrank wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 19:55 |
bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 09:50 | Be a bit careful in how low you mount the IC - JCMF has already found that out. The lowest point on any of mine is the piping, and this is on the same plane as the bottom face of the x-member.
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Although my looking at the pictures you sent me, the difference between mine and yours looks questionable.
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Are you talking to me JCMF ? Is yours as low as mine ? Actually, my piping is the lowest part and the base of the IC is 30mm higher.
As for pics, I have some hosted in my rides, and I can't get to a web hosting site here at work, but here is a cut and paste from my members ride post
The IC nestled in it's new home ;
The routing of the pipes from the compressor to IC ;
The routing of the lower pipes from compressor to IC, and IC to T/B through the original fender hole ;
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Tue, 02 August 2005 01:41
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Ah nice bbaacchhyy (I have seen those pics in the past I recall now!).
Your intercooler dimensions make things a little easier, and better in my opinion! the 380 vs 300 dimension makes a lot more sense in a ma61, there is so much room above the intercooler! And with only being 480 wide vs 600 means you can kinda avoid hitting the rails a little...
I don't think I have a whole lot of other options on where to mount my intercooler! So I think I will just hope and pray that I don't wipe it out on something lol
Chris: no need to be shy mate, look at how ghetto my intercooler piping is !
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Adelaide
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Tue, 02 August 2005 01:48
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wilbo666 wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 11:11 | Your intercooler dimensions make things a little easier, and better in my opinion! the 380 vs 300 dimension makes a lot more sense in a ma61, there is so much room above the intercooler! And with only being 480 wide vs 600 means you can kinda avoid hitting the rails a little...
Cheers
Wilbo
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Yep, the 380 high means just had to trim the bonnet latch support bracket a tad and a neat little 90 degree backet, and bob's your neighbour !!
As long as it works, (and you like it) who cares !!
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Location: Ballarat, Victoria
Registered: March 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Tue, 02 August 2005 03:30
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your 5m intercooler piping has given me a great idea for my cold air intake!
thankyou!
and the conversion looks good, too
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sat, 13 August 2005 10:58
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Another bit of an update
The turbo's and twin pipes are fitted, as is all the alloy turbo piping!
Feels like a lot of progress was made! It's even starting to look like an engine!
The plan for tomorrow is to try and finish off the wiring, mount the PS reservoir and run the LP lines to/from the cooler
See how we go!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Thu, 18 August 2005 12:35
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Well last week was a very slack update for me!
So I finally got around to putting up the pics (note the surgically clean working environment ...yeah I have junk sitting everywhere lol!)
*drool* twin pipes, thaks for pete (petespipes) for these! They look fantastic!
All assembled
Now you see the dash, now you don't
Almost the weekend again
Will get to work on it again soon...
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Fri, 19 August 2005 08:44
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Love the dump pipes! Dash's scare me.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sat, 20 August 2005 11:14
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MAJOR UPDATE!!!!
IT RUNS!!!
VIDEO HERE
That is correct people, the 1JZ has been fired into life
As yet the radiator isn't hooked up so it wasn't run for any extended period of time, but hey, I'm just chuffed it runs
I made a few errors in the wiring, namely forgetting about getting power to the injectors! haha. I was also surprised to find that the injectors are on tow different circuits for power (I was under the impression that they all shared the same +B power, but found that assumption to be wrong!).
I can now share pictures of my complete 'ghetto' (TM) (patent pending) intercooler piping as well
Passenger side
Drivers Side
A few things to tidy up before it is on the road still
*Low pressure PS lines & mounting of reservoir
*Bumper back on
*Tape wiring (now that I know that it works )
*Put dash back in
There is light at the end of the tunnel
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sat, 20 August 2005 13:59
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It's alive!
Will it be ready in time for motokhana?
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Location: Adelaide, SA
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sun, 21 August 2005 05:54
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Nice cooler pipework But very good to see it working!
I like where you have the drivers side cooler pipe going... i'm going to be doing mine slightly differently I think but it's still a good idea.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sun, 21 August 2005 08:29
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wow.. this conversion is coming along in bursts of serious inspiration...
btw - i'm impressed as to how loud this thing is with no zorst beyond the dump pipe. i have to admit that i was expecting something with less bark - but the sound is loud and gutteral.
well done!
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sun, 21 August 2005 13:26
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monkeymajik wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 23:59 |
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Will it be ready in time for motokhana?
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Nope, too much to do (exhaust mainly), and also get mod plate and rego $$$ there! lol
HyDrA wrote on Sun, 21 August 2005 15:54 |
Nice cooler pipework Razz But very good to see it working!
I like where you have the drivers side cooler pipe going... i'm going to be doing mine slightly differently I think but it's still a good idea.
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Rip into my piping all you want, but I think it looks good Not to mention it was EASY, and cheap!
Today I managed to finish off the wiring, and install the PS reservoir and PS lines to the cooler, not a huge day
I thought I would do up a bit of the guide for the wiring, if it helps some people along the line that would be good. Bear in mind this is just what I have done, and I'm not saying it will work for you Also I have a crap memory in general so I may have forgotten some steps/things here
Because I'm running a manual gearbox I didn't have to play with the auto wires and I'm not sure how that would effect things
Basics that you need to do...
*constant battery to the ECU (I modified my existing fuse box so that it had a battery source that was constant; not switched by a relay but still fused on the EFI fuse).
*IGN to the ECU
*Starter signal to the ECU (STA)
*M-REL output to switch +B for the ECU (I used the EFI relay in the engine fuse box).
*Power to the injectors, this is switched with IGN (I used a relay trigged from IGN which I mounted in the lower passenger side to switch this power).
*Power to the fuel pump, as JZZ30's run a Fuel ECU (which has an output from the ECU that I am yet to decipher...I have as a temp measure just linked my fuel pump to run with ign/crank). I will look into installing a rmp triggered relay, stock Fuel Pump ECU or a custom circuit if I work out what the ECU triggers to the Fuel Pump ECU are .
*if running an auto ECU on a manual short the Neutral Start Switch
A few other things that I have done
*ran a wire from the ECU -> Dash for the check engine light and installed a globe in a spare spot. There is a spare spot that requires scraping away some solder mask (green stuff) that will fit the job, I need to install the check engine symbol still however (currently it is blanked off and you can't see the light flash from the front!). Apparently the Aus spec dash's have a LED fitted that could also be used (requires cutting a hole in the dash), I'll confirm this when I take my dash apart shortly).
*ran a wire from the ECU to the stop light switch (the side that is trigger to +12v when the brake pedal is pressed). This is the STP signal to the ECU which is a minor sensor.
*the MA61 oil pressure signal wire is on the drivers side with the 5me and enters the body loom via the drivers side. The 1jz has the oil pressure sender on the passenger side, and it comes in with the ECU loom. I ran a wire for this over to the dash and wired it in.
Cheers
Wilbo
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sun, 21 August 2005 13:37
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Blimey, she's definatly on the way then! Also, unless you've moved, I drive past your place on my way to work every day now around 5:30-6pmish. Give us a wave if you see me =D
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Location: Adelaide
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sun, 21 August 2005 22:30
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You have inspired me again, and I actually did some more this weekend on mine as well.
I took off my cooler pipes in preparation to get them sandblasted and powdercoated.
I will be doing the same re the engine check light, so any other hints/pics on the dash side would be welcome
About to do some redelegation of the radiator weldiing to get it all done so I can get the bloody car running.
Cheers
Michael B
PS Give us a shout when you ar ready tio receive gearsticks for the mod.
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 22 August 2005 01:50
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How do you reckon the ghetto piping will go if you up the boost?
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Location: sunny coast, qld
Registered: October 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 22 August 2005 02:42
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Looking good WIlbo. I haven't got any email notifications lately so haven't seen thread for a while. Be ready for Jambo?
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 22 August 2005 03:18
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bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 08:30 | You have inspired me again, and I actually did some more this weekend on mine as well.
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I will be doing the same re the engine check light, so any other hints/pics on the dash side would be welcome
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Cheers
Michael B
PS Give us a shout when you ar ready tio receive gearsticks for the mod.
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Good to hear you are making progress as well!
I installed my check engine light into the dash this morning and took some pics, which I will host in the next few days. My donor for the check engine light wasn't ideal which made things a bit harder but I'll go into that in more detail later...
I've become diverted with the short shifters atm, finishing the car (and also my last semester of uni) has really hurt that so to be honest I don't think anything will be happening on that front for the next 8 weeks I should update my thread accordingly.
Skip wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 11:50 |
How do you reckon the ghetto piping will go if you up the boost?
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I have no idea I hope it will stand up to it, but it is only a temp thing to be honest, I do plan to get proper piping setup at some stage in the future
I never thought it would happen, but it's starting to look like the whole thing is coming together!
Cheers
Wilbo
[Updated on: Mon, 22 August 2005 03:20]
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 22 August 2005 03:21
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peeack wrote on Sun, 21 August 2005 23:37 | Blimey, she's definatly on the way then! Also, unless you've moved, I drive past your place on my way to work every day now around 5:30-6pmish. Give us a wave if you see me =D
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Haha moved long ago! (in fact I've moved twice since then! )
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 22 August 2005 04:57
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wilbo666 wrote on Mon, 22 August 2005 12:48 |
I've become diverted with the short shifters atm, finishing the car (and also my last semester of uni) has really hurt that so to be honest I don't think anything will be happening on that front for the next 8 weeks I should update my thread accordingly.
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No probs, I'll be surprised if I'm finished by then ....
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sat, 03 September 2005 11:51
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Well, I took it for a drive today
Just up the driveway but hey
Couldn't get it to build boost which is a bit of a worry
I figure there are a few reasons...
*driveway is too short only about 30m tops
*i am too much of a pussy without the tacho working to rev it enough to build boost (yeah I need to fix the tacho, I'm working on it... I need to do some research, but as I understand it the tacho should come on when it is grounded...and the freaking thing doesn't seem to work, I'm bitter) I also tried hooking up a tacho converter (that schematic that is floating around) but yeah no luck...)
I did try to build some boost in 1st gear with the handbrake on (stalling it up effectively), which also didn't seem to work...
It does seem to make the right sort of noises tho, and does seem to go well
I can honestly say that I'm new to this turbo thing
The throwout bearing seems to be noisy (not happy as it is new), and the twin plate clutch seems to be fine to drive with besides being really heavy on the leg and a bit chattery on take off, nothing major tho! (atm the slave is pushing on a slight angle but still I don't think the clutch is going to be that light when I fix that )
I personally think I just need to get it on the road and start trouble shooting properly.
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sun, 04 September 2005 12:52
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Well, it is almost ready to move back to my house and finish off the little things now that it drives! The front bumper is even back on now
A few things to show.
The engine wiring loom looks stock
And here is the check engine light....
And the check engine light guide...
PDF ~700k
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Adelaide
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Sun, 04 September 2005 22:34
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Hi Wilbo,
Many thanks for that. Where did you get the check light transfer from ? A wrecked MA70 dash ? I had a quick look in the guide but couldn't see it (Monday morning itis ?)
Good to seeit is all running and going. Hope your boost issue is just a driveway problem.
Cheers
Michael B
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Location: Brisbane
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 05 September 2005 02:53
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bbaacchhyy wrote on Mon, 05 September 2005 08:34 | Hi Wilbo,
Many thanks for that. Where did you get the check light transfer from ? A wrecked MA70 dash ? I had a quick look in the guide but couldn't see it (Monday morning itis ?)
Good to seeit is all running and going. Hope your boost issue is just a driveway problem.
Cheers
Michael B
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I got mine from a MZ10 dash (was convenient more than anything)...
At the end of the article I went on to say that I wouldn't choose a MZ10 one! The best one I have found at the moment is one out of a RT142 Corona
Yep, lets just hope the boost problem is non existent and I am just a girl
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Mon, 05 September 2005 03:13
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Cheers for that. With a slower read of the doc, the notes at the end are plainly visible.
I'll see what I can do about heading down to the wreckers and have a fiddle
Cheers
Michael B
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: September 2003
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Wed, 14 September 2005 20:27
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Hi Wilbo,
Managed to get to a wreckers over the weekend and found something interesting re the “Check Engine” light donors. I found 3 in total.
RT132 (as mentioned) – has symbol + writing (white on an orange background)
MX73 - has symbol + writing (orange on a black background)
MX83 – symbol only (orange on a black background)
I scored all three, but not sure what I will use
Cheers
Michael B
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Thu, 15 September 2005 03:06
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I reckon the RT142 will be the best bet
MX73 is too big I think!
I would have thought that if you are using the import analogue gauge it would already have a check engine light? Btw how is yours coming along?! I don't think I have seen much progress of late?!
Cheers
Wilbo
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Location: Adelaide
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Re: Wilbo's JZA61
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Tue, 20 September 2005 13:36
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Hi Wilbo,
You are right, the MX73 is a little big. No the import analogue gauge doesn't have a check light.
You are right, not much progress (work, work and too much work), but some has been made and is being shown in the new forums.
Pics to follow soon
Cheers
Michael B
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