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TurboRA28
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Spring rate question Tue, 24 May 2005 05:57 Go to next message
Howdy all.. Got a quick question.. In the RA28 i've got 275lbs/in springs up front and some lowered king springs in the rear.

The rear has always felt a bit soft with this setup, and proved to be at a recent Wakefield day.

Around hard corners seems a lot of weight is transfering to the rear and squats quite low.. This then seems to lift some weight off the inside front wheel to the point it looks close to being off the ground.

I always was planning on putting 180lbs/in springs in the rear keeping with the rear being 2/3rds the rate of the front that seems to work quite well.

Anyhows... decided to pull my finger out and contact king springs about getting some custom made rears, linear, 180lbs/in and to keep the ride height the same as their off the shelf items.

They came back telling me the standard ra28 lowered rear springs they sell are a progressive rate 180lbs/in! I could have sworn they feel more around the 100 mark.

Now they sure dont feel that firm.. But i'm wondering if its because they are progressive they feel so soft.

Can anyone comment if I changed from these progressive 180s to linear 180s if its going to feel firmer and the arse will sag less around hard corners?

Or am I just going to have to go for something firmer than 180? - no silly comments about 8kg/6kg springs I've driven with those before along some of the twisty roads I enjoy and the car just wants to bounce off the road its crap.

Cheers
Joel

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Stefan
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Re: Spring rate question Tue, 24 May 2005 06:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The other complication is that many 'progressive' springs are effectively linear when installed, and are only progressive to keep the spring captive at full droop - I know my front low Kings are this way. This may well not be the case with your stock rear springs at all, but just a thought.

I find it hard to believe that the original stock springs would be progressive anyway.
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Re: Spring rate question Tue, 24 May 2005 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Joel,

It is really a question of how you like a car setup as well.

I know from the days when Jim Ricghards and Mark Skaife were together, MS liked the back end of his car setup so that it was soft in the rear which would give very good power down pout of the corner, but would easily pick up the inside front wheel.

My RX2 was setup like this, and it had 400lb/in fronts (a little hard) and 200lb/in rears and was used for cct work only.

Get your current ones measured and give the harder ones a go and see what feels better as well as compare lap times.

Don't forget that if you change the spring rates and keep the same heights, your dynamic roll centres will change as well.

Cheers

Michael B
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Re: Spring rate question Tue, 24 May 2005 07:22 Go to previous message
Hmm good point there Michael.. It might not necessarily be an improvement firming up the rear end. Or more should say it might not equate to quicker lap times.
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