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Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 02:30
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heys guys - looking for advice or examples of people here who have set up a camera in their cars to record trasck footage
this is not for my Gt4 - its for the Classic Adelaide Perana capri were building ..
it has no rollcage - stock interior , but a very lumpy V8 - so anything obsucre/good for vibration control would be advised as examples
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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December 2002
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 02:47
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across the head rests on a plank of wood, drill and mount it on the dash, jesse has one mounted on the rear strut brace of his t-18.
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Newcastle
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April 2003
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 04:52
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Maybe something like these guys use would be more effective.
http://www.onbike.tv/
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Terrigal
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May 2002
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 04:56
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I made this up which was a very simple and easy design.. Works alright..
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Newcastle, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 05:39
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Great design!
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Hobart
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May 2005
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 05:51
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I use a manfrotto 241V and 241 with tilt head addon suction, if you want the link for it email me on "theperson_20@hotmail.com" both mounts are about $200 each and i highly recommend. Means you can have it inside and outside your car.
Iain
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 07:14
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F'ck... those are some nice brackets.
http://www.manfrotto.com/
I don't think I could use $200 worth of bracket though so I'll stick with my $14.95 plastic thing 
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 07:58
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thanks for the great ideas so far guys
'i shoulda specified some points though
*Cant use passenger seat - as ill be sitting in it navigating
*cant use a bodge job ( ie wood ) as it has to be scrutinised by race officials
*cant be mounted on the dashboard
this car has to be race approved .
Any examples say on the back parchel shelf mounted stiff - or a camera that has optional ports to run a small line camera off - like a spy camera setup ?
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Brisbane
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October 2002
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 08:30
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i reckon the only way u could really go is the parcel tray
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 08:34
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nods - ill have to see if thats an option ..
and see what points i might be able to use to mount the thing up with
http://www.camerahacker.com/Car_Camera_Mount/
saw that idea - whichh was pretty sweet
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Perth
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July 2004
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 10:49
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use the mounts that are in the back for the roof handle things?
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February 2003
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 11:44
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here's mine:
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Banned by his request
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moved to tamworth
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 31 May 2005 11:50
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have you got a pic of your cage? ill tell you exactly how to do it! ive made three for diffrent cage style for targa and god know how many for circuit cars. get a pic of you cages and ill tell you to the letter how to do it and make it safe.
mick
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Wed, 01 June 2005 07:54
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there is no cage in the car - its only for thoroughbred sport at this stage of the game
and the driver tellsme theres an actual plan that we have to go by from the classic organising committee ..
Crud ..
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I supported Toymods
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Wed, 01 June 2005 08:41
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| Classique71 wrote on Wed, 01 June 2005 17:54 |
and the driver tellsme theres an actual plan that we have to go by from the classic organising committee ..
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This is correct.
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Tassie
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October 2003
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Wed, 01 June 2005 10:26
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There is a bracket made for camera mounting it's got a sucktion cup on it and it can hold a camera up to 1.5 kg big.
I was looking at them on monday the guy said it's what they use in targa.
They are around $200 but they won't let your camera get shaken to pieces.
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Brisbane
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Thu, 02 June 2005 04:33
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Stu,
We ran a camera in the last few rallies...the mount I can't really help you with if you don't have a cage, but I can talk about how it's all set up.
We use a Sony cam that has an RCA input...then used a few different cameras. We had a CCTV camera mounted to the cage...had the best resolution (like 500lines or something) and was hard mounted facing forward. Also had another little spy camera that was mounted to the back number plate pointing backwards.
Then had a mate make up a pretty splinky box (had the sik blue LEDs so it must have been good  ) which did a few different things in one. It could take 2 RCA in feeds and then send the camera one feed at a time (this let us switch between views via a toggle on the box) but it also had a timer so that it could switch between cameras every 60 seconds during a stage. It also had a few power source's built in and it took a 13v feed straight off the battery. The video camera was then mounted in a bag in the boot.
Apparently a LANC type remote is useful because it gives you a corded remote meaning you can start and stop the camera whilst strapped in the front rather than getting out every time.
M
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Thu, 02 June 2005 23:50
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need to see inside the car to tell you even if it dosnt have a cage stu!
mick
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Fri, 03 June 2005 02:53
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no point just yet mick - ill have to see what the classic adel people say re their mounting specs dude - though i do appreciate all the ideas given in this thread - i can use some of them on the Gt4 for fun days
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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December 2002
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Fri, 03 June 2005 15:03
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We've got a few weatherproof camera's at work that you could wire into the front bar or similar... means you have to have access to a video camera with a video input, however, most newer digital video cams have this.
Send me a PM if you're interested.
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Lara, Vic
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February 2005
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Sat, 04 June 2005 01:50
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Yeah, the best way to do it is as dynomatt suggested, using remote cameras and the composite input on you video camera (most new sony's do it). That is when the camera is in VTR mode any input on the RCA plugs (that you normally plug into your TV to play a tape) will be automatically be detected as input and the camera will display it. You can then just use the VTR record to record it. I have even used my camera to play the playstation!! 
Using remote CCD cameras or the cheaper less quality CMOS cameras is great as they can handel the vibrations much better. The camera can then be put in a block of foam and put in the glove box or something, otherwise the vibration will kill it very quickly. The cameras are small and you can put them almost anywhere, I have even had them under the car and in the wheel arch (suspension is really cool when going over rough ground)
Here is my B/W version VERY sturdy, has been in fire situations, under cars, under water and more...
Runs off 12V and even has audio (but it is low as the mic in inside the case!)
You get very still pictures, and depending on the quality of the camera they can be quite good.
Any other questions just ask, happy to help.
Cheers
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Canberra
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January 2004
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Sat, 04 June 2005 15:08
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for the wake field drift day we used a the head rest style one but rahter than removing it completely the head rest was still in place with a bar going underneath with holes drilled out for the head rest, so the camera sat in between both seats and could be pointed forward or backwards. ours needs a some finshing touches to stop it moving up and down. rubber gromits are the next step.
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Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Sat, 04 June 2005 19:08
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i 3rd'ed the CMOS camera style mounting
Ive got an old colour Cmos with built in mic, but i want something with a higher resolution to suit the fancy MiniDV w/ RCA in i have now.. any suggestions? I want one with nice case prolly bullet type. that i can mount outside car, inside car, on my motorbike helmet etc...
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June 2005
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Tue, 07 June 2005 19:03
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I have tried just about every way of mounting a camera in the car and on my bikes, and i have to agree that the best way to go is with a "bullet" camera wired to the AV/IN on your camcorder. I bought the one from M.J.H's suggestion from www.onbike.tv because i liked the mounting solution they had for it. It's just a piece of rubber molded to insert the camera in it, and they claim it eliminates vibrations completely. I tried it and must say i am really pleased with it, videos are really stable even on my bike on the racetrack at race speeds. I also used their LANC remote control which lets me start/stop the camcorder at the push of a button on the dashboard, very convenient!
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Victoria
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May 2002
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Location:
Penrith
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February 2005
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Wed, 08 June 2005 08:56
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Why not duct tape it to your helmet like they do on Who Dares Wins. might be a bit shakey though.
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Eskilstuna, Sweden
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May 2002
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Re: Vieo camera mounting - for race car
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Wed, 08 June 2005 22:31
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Actually the head is a good spot to mount a camera as it is actually kept quite stable (that is what your inner ear is up to).
Check these out:
http://www.cookiecomposites.com/
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high resolution cams at a good price with bits and pieces to suit my needs