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Toymods Club Treasurer
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Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 07:53
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Just wondering if anyone out there (preferably in NSW) has taken their speeding fine to court to try to reduce the suspension period?
I know Qld has a provision for keeping your licence because you might need it for work, but NSW doesn't have this.
I don't want to dispute what I got booked for or the fine, but I'd like to try to get the suspension period lowered from 3 months to 1 month (or not at all) if possible
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:02
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ive been 3 times for the same speeding issue,
what i did- 30-45 over the limit, got 3 months in court and $300 speeding fine, $200 racing fine
RTA then gave me 12 months automatic racing fine, i appealed, majistrate overruled the suspension
RTA then gave me 3 more months for loss of all points, i appealed, also got overruled by the majistrate
each time ive been ive seen loads of people get off the hook for stuff
for example, one guy did a burnout out of maccas and got caught, lost all his licence cause he had a previous speeding fine, the majistrate gave him his full licence back cause he needs it to work at maccas
another guy lost his doing 70 in a 50 on double dems, he got his licence back cause he said he needed it for school/work
my advice, if you appeal it take it to hornsby court, thats where ive been and each time noticed theyre very easy going
also a mate got done driving on his L's, only got a $200 fine (parramatta court)
APPEAL APPEAL APPEAL!
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Toymods Club Treasurer
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:13
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That was for "only" 70 in a 50 zone.
I was clocked at 156 in 110 on M4. so >45 above the limit (though it was recorded as >30 with a $579 fine.
It was at 1:34am on Friday morn with no other cars around (took about 5 mins for one to pass us after I pulled over)
But I've got an even better excuse for needing a car for work (apart from the 40 000km I've clockd up on the one supplied for me) in that I supervise roadworks, which is, ummm, kind of on the road  ,where you need to drive to.
I had a previous 85 in a 70 zone in Oct 2002. But I've done about 130 000km since then.
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:15
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yes they are usually leaneant for first time offences but just dont be late the guy b4 me on a drink driving charge was 5 mins late and got 5 years ouch!!!!
It cost me not too much as i used NRMA legal assistance cause i was a member and advice was free and got a barrister for 400 buks a day cant do that anymore as they dont offer it so prepare to pay some $$$ if you want your licsense back
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:17
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i wouldnt be suprised at all if they gave you your licence back immediately.
remember it will take close to a month from when you appeal to your hearing.
just tell the majistrate the reason for doing the speed, sound to me like it might have been your sick grandma?
and mention that you understand it was a stupid thing to do but you were going through a rough time.
get a few references from important people, maybe one from your boss saying he needs you on time.
go for it! youve got more than a good chance, just prepare well
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:19
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| wagonist wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:13 |
That was for "only" 70 in a 50 zone.
I was clocked at 156 in 110 on M4. so >45 above the limit (though it was recorded as >30 with a $579 fine.
It was at 1:34am on Friday morn with no other cars around (took about 5 mins for one to pass us after I pulled over)
But I've got an even better excuse for needing a car for work (apart from the 40 000km I've clockd up on the one supplied for me) in that I supervise roadworks, which is, ummm, kind of on the road ,where you need to drive to.
I had a previous 85 in a 70 zone in Oct 2002. But I've done about 130 000km since then.
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the way i see it the cop was nice to you and you should cop it sweet they might let you have it back for work or they may increase the penalty
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:20
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and about getting a lawyer, forget it, i recken you have a much better chance doing all the talking yourself, the cases i saw with lawyers envolved the majistrate didnt look happy at all and the offender usually winds up worse.
go for the i cant afford a lawyer, i am just a stupid little boy that made a mistake look.
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Toymods Club Treasurer
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Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 08:36
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Well, I've got previous offences (I've been driving for 14 years  )
I'm prepared to wear the fine, & even have my licence suspended for one month, just don't want it for 3 months, that's all.
& apparently, the court can actually increase the fime & suspesnion period if they want to.
From the RTA website:
Listed below are the penalties if you are convicted by a court.
Offence Court............................................. ..... Maximum Fine ...Licence Disqualification:
Not more than 30 km/h ...................................... $2,200
More than 30 km/h but not more than 45 km/h ..$2,200 .......... 3 months (minimum)
More than 45 km/h ............................................ $2,200 ........... 6 months (minimum)
The judge can reduce it though if they want? despite what's above?
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Location:
Coffs Harbour, NSW
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 09:12
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my mate got done about a month or so ago for 63 in a 50 on the double demerit easter weekend (i think, maybe a bit earlier)
he's just started his three month suspension (since last saturday), but he didnt want to take it to court, because of costs i think
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Location:
Newcastle
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April 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 09:18
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Any way you could try to get off with traffic offenders programme?
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Location:
Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 09:44
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14 years of driving would be really good for ya, even with a couple 'small? speeding fines.
i doubt very much they would increase your fine or suspension.
just turn up looking shmick and aim for some sympathy, maybe ask for a driving offenders program, or i've heard about a good behaviour bond before where they give you your licence back but you have to be perfect for a certain period of time,
i say go for it!
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 10:47
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Steve,
That's pretty unlucky to get caught then!
How did they catch you?! I can't imagine that they were sitting in the nature strip waiting for people to speed by at that time of the night!
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northgate@brisbane.qld.au
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July 2003
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 11:28
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of course they were, i mean it's not like there's any burglars, rapists or murderers out at that time of night, they're all safely in bed.
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Toronto, Downtown
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 11:35
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thats what id be doing if i was a copper that is stationed on the m4 if youve ever parked on the side of the road on the m4 for anything longer than 1/2 an hr you would see just how many people fly along that road in the wee hrs of the morning
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Location:
Cabramatta, NSW
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Thu, 02 June 2005 12:10
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Yes, people will speed like crazy at that time of the night (I certainly do).
But how many people die on the freeway between midnight and dawn? If they were just sitting there, then they were just being c*nts.
My opinion of course... 
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Location:
Newcastle, Australia
Registered:
March 2005
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 01:42
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I'm on my green P's, and had clean record, and then about 3 offences within 6 months.
1x 79 in a 60kph zone (which should be marked as 70kph anyway)
2x red light cameras (went red just as I crossed the line)
Wrote letters about each one, they said stiff cheddar, now pay up, I did, and then they sent me the suspension in the mail.
Took the suspension to court, they sent me to the traffic offenders program (AKA Schooner School), did that (8 weeks, 1 night a week), and then took my results from that back to court and got my suspension reduced from 3 months to 1 weekend 
I used my car all the time as I am an onsite computer tech, so losing my license would have crippled my travel options. I had everything well prepared in advance of the court caase, and represented myself.
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I supported Toymods
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Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 02:09
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| wagonist wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:36 |
Well, I've got previous offences (I've been driving for 14 years )
I'm prepared to wear the fine, & even have my licence suspended for one month, just don't want it for 3 months, that's all.
& apparently, the court can actually increase the fime & suspesnion period if they want to.
From the RTA website:
Listed below are the penalties if you are convicted by a court.
The judge can reduce it though if they want? despite what's above?
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call the court and ask to speak to the duty magistrate (or whatever his name is). they're usually great guys, and will give you pretty sound advice. The dude I spoke to did (overturned neg driving).
And from hwat I heard in court while I was tehre, if you plead guilty and have special circumstances/need your licence, magistrates tend to be quite willing to lower the penalty (esp if your record indicates you're not a serial offender)
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 02:34
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u r always taking a risk when speeding mate .. just dont get caught but if u do ... "u do the crime, do the time ..."
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Osama's hideout
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February 2003
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 02:39
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| wagonist wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:13 |
That was for "only" 70 in a 50 zone.
I was clocked at 156 in 110 on M4. so >45 above the limit (though it was recorded as >30 with a $579 fine.
It was at 1:34am on Friday morn with no other cars around (took about 5 mins for one to pass us after I pulled over)
But I've got an even better excuse for needing a car for work (apart from the 40 000km I've clockd up on the one supplied for me) in that I supervise roadworks, which is, ummm, kind of on the road ,where you need to drive to.
I had a previous 85 in a 70 zone in Oct 2002. But I've done about 130 000km since then.
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doesnt matter what time of day it was 156k's an hour is fugging rediculos on a public road.
no matter what ends up happening to yourself, have a look in the mirror. unless you were dieing of a heart attak or taking a pregnent women to hospital, that speed's un acceptable.
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Sydney
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June 2003
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 02:44
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| 1JZ.747 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 12:39 |
| wagonist wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:13 |
That was for "only" 70 in a 50 zone.
I was clocked at 156 in 110 on M4. so >45 above the limit (though it was recorded as >30 with a $579 fine.
It was at 1:34am on Friday morn with no other cars around (took about 5 mins for one to pass us after I pulled over)
But I've got an even better excuse for needing a car for work (apart from the 40 000km I've clockd up on the one supplied for me) in that I supervise roadworks, which is, ummm, kind of on the road ,where you need to drive to.
I had a previous 85 in a 70 zone in Oct 2002. But I've done about 130 000km since then.
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doesnt matter what time of day it was 156k's an hour is fugging rediculos on a public road.
no matter what ends up happening to yourself, have a look in the mirror. unless you were dieing of a heart attak or taking a pregnent women to hospital, that speed's un acceptable.
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I disagree. On the f5 I have been a lot faster than that. however there was this straight that meant I could see for 3km or so, the road was completely empty in both directions. Now as i see it, that's taking my own life in my hands. I agree that speeding like that is dangerous IF there are people around, but when you are by yourself, if you want to do it, it might not be safe, but at least you are only going to kill yourself.  Now that I talk about it, it seems kinda stupid.... 
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On Probation
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sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 02:51
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it depends on the judge u get.
mine was a prick and doubled the fines i had already got.
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 02:56
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| time2play wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 12:51 |
it depends on the judge u get.
mine was a prick and doubled the fines i had already got.
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hmmmm you got owned, not good.
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 03:34
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| Caledwvech wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 12:44 |
| 1JZ.747 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 12:39 |
| wagonist wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:13 |
That was for "only" 70 in a 50 zone.
I was clocked at 156 in 110 on M4. so >45 above the limit (though it was recorded as >30 with a $579 fine.
It was at 1:34am on Friday morn with no other cars around (took about 5 mins for one to pass us after I pulled over)
But I've got an even better excuse for needing a car for work (apart from the 40 000km I've clockd up on the one supplied for me) in that I supervise roadworks, which is, ummm, kind of on the road ,where you need to drive to.
I had a previous 85 in a 70 zone in Oct 2002. But I've done about 130 000km since then.
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doesnt matter what time of day it was 156k's an hour is fugging rediculos on a public road.
no matter what ends up happening to yourself, have a look in the mirror. unless you were dieing of a heart attak or taking a pregnent women to hospital, that speed's un acceptable.
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I disagree. On the f5 I have been a lot faster than that. however there was this straight that meant I could see for 3km or so, the road was completely empty in both directions. Now as i see it, that's taking my own life in my hands. I agree that speeding like that is dangerous IF there are people around, but when you are by yourself, if you want to do it, it might not be safe, but at least you are only going to kill yourself. Now that I talk about it, it seems kinda stupid....
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u would look like a dick if u crashed your car n made the news though ...
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On Probation
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sydney
Registered:
February 2005
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 03:58
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Owned with a capital O
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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December 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 05:36
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| 1JZ.747 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 12:39 |
| wagonist wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:13 |
That was for "only" 70 in a 50 zone.
I was clocked at 156 in 110 on M4. so >45 above the limit (though it was recorded as >30 with a $579 fine.
It was at 1:34am on Friday morn with no other cars around (took about 5 mins for one to pass us after I pulled over)
But I've got an even better excuse for needing a car for work (apart from the 40 000km I've clockd up on the one supplied for me) in that I supervise roadworks, which is, ummm, kind of on the road ,where you need to drive to.
I had a previous 85 in a 70 zone in Oct 2002. But I've done about 130 000km since then.
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doesnt matter what time of day it was 156k's an hour is fugging rediculos on a public road.
no matter what ends up happening to yourself, have a look in the mirror. unless you were dieing of a heart attak or taking a pregnent women to hospital, that speed's un acceptable.
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I also disagree to a point.
156 is quite reasonable on a 3 lane, very well built motorway with zero traffic and perfect visibility.
These roads (M4, F3, M5 etc.) are built to a speed rating far above what the speed limit of the road currently is.
Wagonist would probably be one of the most likely people to know or be able to find out what these engineering specs are.
If I were you Wagonist I would be hitting the filing room and looking for those engineering specs!
Also remember that if a person honestly believed they were travelling too fast they would naturally decrease their speed to get back into their comfort zone.
Unless of course that person is a suicidal psychopath or something.
It sort of shows that most people do not entirely agree with the set speed limits as so many people get done for speeding... so much in fact that the police have a dedicated command who almost exclusively enforce speed limits (i.e. Hwy Patrol).
I think the most dangerous people on the roads are those people who drive to the speed limit when clearly they should have slowed down.
e.g. very heavy rain on the hwy, busy pedestrian area, heavy traffic etc.
It is these sorts of people who get themselves and others killed every day, not people like wagonist who give their car a blat on a dead flat road with zero traffic late at night.
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Osama's hideout
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February 2003
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 05:45
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| Toobs wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 15:36 |
| 1JZ.747 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 12:39 |
| wagonist wrote on Thu, 02 June 2005 18:13 |
That was for "only" 70 in a 50 zone.
I was clocked at 156 in 110 on M4. so >45 above the limit (though it was recorded as >30 with a $579 fine.
It was at 1:34am on Friday morn with no other cars around (took about 5 mins for one to pass us after I pulled over)
But I've got an even better excuse for needing a car for work (apart from the 40 000km I've clockd up on the one supplied for me) in that I supervise roadworks, which is, ummm, kind of on the road ,where you need to drive to.
I had a previous 85 in a 70 zone in Oct 2002. But I've done about 130 000km since then.
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doesnt matter what time of day it was 156k's an hour is fugging rediculos on a public road.
no matter what ends up happening to yourself, have a look in the mirror. unless you were dieing of a heart attak or taking a pregnent women to hospital, that speed's un acceptable.
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I also disagree to a point.
156 is quite reasonable on a 3 lane, very well built motorway with zero traffic and perfect visibility.
These roads (M4, F3, M5 etc.) are built to a speed rating far above what the speed limit of the road currently is.
Wagonist would probably be one of the most likely people to know or be able to find out what these engineering specs are.
If I were you Wagonist I would be hitting the filing room and looking for those engineering specs!
Also remember that if a person honestly believed they were travelling too fast they would naturally decrease their speed to get back into their comfort zone.
Unless of course that person is a suicidal psychopath or something.
It sort of shows that most people do not entirely agree with the set speed limits as so many people get done for speeding... so much in fact that the police have a dedicated command who almost exclusively enforce speed limits (i.e. Hwy Patrol).
I think the most dangerous people on the roads are those people who drive to the speed limit when clearly they should have slowed down.
e.g. very heavy rain on the hwy, busy pedestrian area, heavy traffic etc.
It is these sorts of people who get themselves and others killed every day, not people like wagonist who give their car a blat on a dead flat road with zero traffic late at night.
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i havent been bothered to read your full post.
i dont care if the road is built for 400kph, theres a speed limit, maybe you can remember when you did your l and p test.
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Cabramatta, NSW
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May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 06:04
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| 1JZ.747 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 15:45 |
i dont care if the road is built for 400kph, theres a speed limit, maybe you can remember when you did your l and p test.
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So you would stick diligently to 110km/h in a massive, long straight carriageway?
What about down the main straight of Wakefield Park with people standing on a wall just metres away from you whilst you hurtle down a narrower piece of tarmac? What sort of speeds would you do then?
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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December 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 06:33
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| 1JZ.747 wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 15:45 |
i dont care if the road is built for 400kph, theres a speed limit, maybe you can remember when you did your l and p test.
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How conformist of you... the Chinese govt would be proud!
The speed limits that are currently in place were the governments estimate at a safe max speed for that road at the time the speed limit was implemented.
They were based on the capabilities of all cars on the road at that time.
Now I doubt the speed limits are reviewed unless the govt receives a certain number of complaints from the public or there are some serious accidents caused by their posted speed limit.
In most cases the people who complain are the ones who have too much time on their hands anyway.
e.g. retiree's who think us young whipper snappers in our small cars powered by those new fangled 4 stroke 4 cylinder crossflow engines drive too fast.
Also I doubt the govt pays for a civil and transport engineer to study each road each time they review a speed limit and probably just do whatever is required to keep the whinging public happy.
If this is the case then the majority of the time when the speed limit is reviewed it is lowered rather than raised.
So essentially our speed limits are probably the defined by technology, infrastructure and thinking that existed in 50's, 60's, 70's & 80's.
Does anyone really think that a 2004 Subaru Imprezza WRX handles the same as a 1970's KE20 corolla?
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sunny coast, qld
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 06:45
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I am happy with the 110km zones. My car can only do 100km nicely anyway.
BTW I would fight the fine. Just to give them some extra paper work
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I supported Toymods
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sydney.au
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 09:01
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| Toobs wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 16:33 |
Does anyone really think that a 2004 Subaru Imprezza WRX handles the same as a 1970's KE20 corolla?
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nope they dont, but those cars STILL travel on these roads quite regularly man.
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 11:00
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| ae86drift wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 19:01 |
| Toobs wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 16:33 |
Does anyone really think that a 2004 Subaru Imprezza WRX handles the same as a 1970's KE20 corolla?
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nope they dont, but those cars STILL travel on these roads quite regularly man.
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I know... just an example.
I owned a KE20 with a 3TGTE, Alpha LSD etc. etc. and when I drove it I drove to a point where I felt safe not to a margin of safety defined by others... also the level of trust I placed on the KE20 was a lot less than I give the Gt4.
I can understand the governments reasoning for not increasing speed limits.
e.g. if someone had an accident because they were driving too fast for the conditions and vehicle but still below the speed limit you would probably find they can bring a successful lawsuit against the government for negligence.
Although I think the people enforcing the law may not always know or even care to know why they are enforcing it, rather they just enforce it as it is their job.
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Toymods Club Treasurer
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 11:07
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Whoa, this got interesting in the last 24hrs
Nark: spot on dude.
1JZ: congrats on your 1/4 mile time. Pity you now have to fit a rol cage to compete again. What happens after that 400m is up tho What speed are you doing at the end of a 1/4 mile, & what's different between a drag strip with concrete walls & another car trying to keep up at the same speed & a 15m wide strip of asphalt with no other cars on it?
The speed limit is there & its antiquated. I have about as much faith in the driving tests in thius country as stepping on quicksand. The number of idiots who've managed to get licences is ridiculous.
Germany is really hard to get a licence & they're got autobarns.
In England, the cops only enforce the 85th percentile speed. ie if 85% of the traffic is moving at a speed upto 75mph they'll only book people for travelling over that, even if the limit is 60mph.
Toobs: I might just have to do that. I reckon the straight I was on would probably handle quite safely 200km/h.
Roads like the M4 are designed with a safety margin in mind, both so the limit could be raised later if wanted, & also so emergency vehicles can travel safely above the limit (what kind of margin would be needed for an ambulance travelling at 130+?)
I sent an email off the RTA last night. They said to contact the Infringement bureau (who I reckon will say tough & take it to court)
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Toymods Club Treasurer
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Sydney
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 11:10
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| ae86drift wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 19:01 |
| Toobs wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 16:33 |
Does anyone really think that a 2004 Subaru Imprezza WRX handles the same as a 1970's KE20 corolla?
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nope they dont, but those cars STILL travel on these roads quite regularly man.
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Correct, but I seriously doubt I would've been trying to do 150+km/h in it, not without some work to it anyway.
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Fri, 03 June 2005 14:51
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| wagonist wrote on Fri, 03 June 2005 21:07 |
Whoa, this got interesting in the last 24hrs
Nark: spot on dude.
1JZ: congrats on your 1/4 mile time. Pity you now have to fit a rol cage to compete again. What happens after that 400m is up tho What speed are you doing at the end of a 1/4 mile, & what's different between a drag strip with concrete walls & another car trying to keep up at the same speed & a 15m wide strip of asphalt with no other cars on it?
The speed limit is there & its antiquated. I have about as much faith in the driving tests in thius country as stepping on quicksand. The number of idiots who've managed to get licences is ridiculous.
Germany is really hard to get a licence & they're got autobarns.
In England, the cops only enforce the 85th percentile speed. ie if 85% of the traffic is moving at a speed upto 75mph they'll only book people for travelling over that, even if the limit is 60mph.
Toobs: I might just have to do that. I reckon the straight I was on would probably handle quite safely 200km/h.
Roads like the M4 are designed with a safety margin in mind, both so the limit could be raised later if wanted, & also so emergency vehicles can travel safely above the limit (what kind of margin would be needed for an ambulance travelling at 130+?)
I sent an email off the RTA last night. They said to contact the Infringement bureau (who I reckon will say tough & take it to court)
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Request a copy of the engineering specs through freedom of information.
Unless of course you can just whip them out from work
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Location:
townsville NQLD
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Sun, 05 June 2005 10:15
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the speed limits in aus. are ridiculous (spel?)
i find i drive more dangerously with the current speed limits because im going so slow that i am constantly looking out the window and day dreaming.
if the speed limits were higher however i could definitly see myself concentrating more on the road.
i start my license suspension (3 months) on the 15th june  . i was caught doing 105 in a 80 zone on the bruce higway, 4 lane part
come to think of it, i should have appealed it to get a lesser suspenion time, but oh well next time
good luck with your case fellow speeder
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Epping, Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Sun, 05 June 2005 13:11
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I'm with brett - I pay a lot more attention when I'm going over the speed limit than cruising along at boring speeds.
incidentally, I saw the same hwy patrol guy pull over 4 people while I was waiting to wash the work car today at the twin caltex's on the M4. glad I had the heads up, I rarely stick to the speed limit on any part of the m4, except at the speed cameras
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Location:
New Zealand
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Sun, 05 June 2005 22:38
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I just have one point for you guys to ponder.
If you all pay so much attention while doing these really high speeds on roads supposedly built for it, why didn't you see the cop??????
When ever you speed (and I do ocassionally) you take the risk of getting caught and you know the punishment you are likely to get. Why complain when you get caught then? Pay up, handle the suspension and move on.
Callum
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Toymods Club Treasurer
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Sun, 05 June 2005 23:50
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Purple_beasty, have you ever driven on a proper Australian motorway?
I don't know what yours are like (apart from what we see on "Motorway Patrol" )
From the looks of it, yours are simply 6 lane roads with a concrete barrier down the middle. The only place for a cop to hide is one the left side of the road.
Our motorways (where room permits) are built with 2, 3 or 4 lanes each way, with a 20m gap in middle which is planted out with trees & has occasional strips joining the 2 carriageways so emergency vehicles can turn around without having to go all the way to the next interchange.
With these forests, the highway patrol has plenty of room to hid 95% of the vehicle while still having the radar guns hanging out the side.
It's not a matter of not accepting it, I'm prepared to live with the fine, & also with some sort of suspension, I'd just prefer not to have to have the full 3 months especailly when I live by myself & need to drive for work.
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Location:
townsville NQLD
Registered:
February 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Mon, 06 June 2005 04:31
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| Purple_Beasty wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 08:38 |
I just have one point for you guys to ponder.
If you all pay so much attention while doing these really high speeds on roads supposedly built for it, why didn't you see the cop??????
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you do see them but by the time you make any kind of reaction the radar has already calculated your speed and your screwed.
it only takes a fraction of a second for the radar gun to calculate your speed.
but then again, if its just a cop following you to determine your speed i guess its a different story
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Location:
Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: Court Appearance for Speeding
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Tue, 07 June 2005 01:35
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| Purple_Beasty wrote on Mon, 06 June 2005 08:38 |
I just have one point for you guys to ponder.
If you all pay so much attention while doing these really high speeds on roads supposedly built for it, why didn't you see the cop??????
When ever you speed (and I do ocassionally) you take the risk of getting caught and you know the punishment you are likely to get. Why complain when you get caught then? Pay up, handle the suspension and move on.
Callum
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because their intention were to hide from you in the first place! Would you see a pedestrian quietly crossing a road hiding behind cars and trees wearing dark and matt clothing, or would a car rolling out the side street slowly, painted in steath colours with all its lights turned off?
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