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Any Respray Expert here????....
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Sat, 04 June 2005 12:51
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Want to know what's different between..
Arcylic, 2 pack, air dry enamel..
which one has a better finish and last longer (without Baking)
Thanks.....
Or anyone know someone or some place do some cheap
respray job..
Thanks for the reply^^
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Location:
brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Sat, 04 June 2005 13:33
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acrylic - common enthusiast paintjob, water based, not as glossy as 2 pack, dries slower, not as hard, easy to fix small sections when spraying.
enamel - not recommended at all
2 pack - common pro paintjob, very good gloss, hardens fast and well, need to have protective equipment, hard to fix small sections when spraying.
better finish with 2 pack but same finish can be achieved with acrylic.
yes there are lots of places that do a cheap respray. spraying is easy and about 10% of the paintjob. perparation is about 90%
[Updated on: Sat, 04 June 2005 13:34]
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Adelaide
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May 2003
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Sat, 04 June 2005 13:44
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Acrylic with a 2Pac top coat gives almost as good a result as complete 2Pac. But with a smaller price tag.
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Sydney
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May 2004
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Sat, 04 June 2005 23:44
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2pac is the way to go.
Uve been pmed for the connection 
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East Maitland NSW
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December 2004
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Sun, 05 June 2005 00:47
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What is wrong with enamel?
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Sun, 05 June 2005 02:56
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Non bake enamel, skins over, and dries very very slowly.
Baked enamel process involves heating the car first, which causes the paint to dry from the bottom out, no skin.
Most factory finishes up to the late 1980's were baked enamel.
Touch up was generally with acrylic.
Whole panel repairs were baked at panel shops.
cheers Chuck.
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western queensland
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September 2004
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Sun, 05 June 2005 04:34
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| takai wrote on Sat, 04 June 2005 23:44 |
Acrylic with a 2Pac top coat gives almost as good a result as complete 2Pac. But with a smaller price tag.
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unfortunatly the rate of expansion and contraction between acrylic laquer base coat and a 2K clear is differant and therefore will separate over time giving the flaking off of the clear like old commodores etc. ie: dosen't work
the methods of blending and touch ups for acrylic laquer and 2k are the same, 2K if anything is less temperamental so easier for the amatuer. Solid coulors use a different method thats even easier again such as white or red.
enamel doesen't have the UV protection like 2k so will fade, touch ups are also tricky though i do it every day.
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Sydney
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August 2004
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Sun, 05 June 2005 07:04
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But I have heard from some
Panel Beater say if I want to
do a 2 Pack Respray Job...I must Bake it..
True???
haha...1 more question...
with out a Baking...
which is the best finish (Arcylic, 2 pack)
Which last linger (Arcylic, 2 pack)
Thanks for all prefessional Advice guys!!!
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Banned user
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ADELAIDE - The Drift City
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July 2002
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Sun, 05 June 2005 09:00
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all newer holdens are painted with acrylic base and 2 pac clear on top. and this is what i have done with my new car (asince its a holden colour and all.)
its a lot easier then straight 2 pac thats for sure...
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Canberra
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May 2002
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Sun, 05 June 2005 10:53
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PPG paint resellers can supply "COBRA" paints.
Effectively it is an acrylic, with a 2Pak clearcoat.
The acrylic, and 2Pak are formulated to expand and contract at the same rate, which will reduce/eliminate the cracking mentioned in this thread.
cheers chuck.
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Sydney
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April 2005
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Tue, 07 June 2005 12:14
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| kwayzivietnamese wrote on Sun, 05 June 2005 09:44 |
2pac is the way to go.
Uve been pmed for the connection
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would you mind to connect me too  I need a respray too;)
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South Australia
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July 2002
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Tue, 07 June 2005 12:58
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Acrylic is the go for me, as I can't afford the protective equipment to do 2 pak - whereas what is required to spray acrylic is far less expensive.
Having said that, it takes a lot more work to make acrylic look as good as 2 pak.
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Sydney
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Re: Any Respray Expert here????....
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Tue, 07 June 2005 22:32
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If your going to paint in Acrylic go get some Protec Acrylic,
I tried a few manufactures when i painted the rally car, and they were by far the best, high gloss finish off the gun and virtually no sanding or polishing to get a good shine.
Ben.
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