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Location: SYDNEY
Registered: November 2004
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Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Wed, 08 June 2005 12:31
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As it says, has anyone got a copy of the very first issue of fast Fours and Rotaries...or know where i could see one.
There was a car featured in it....i think...it was a long time ago. It had an AE82 SECA that was white and i am trying to get a picture of the wheels that were on it again from memory they were Centra type 8s,they are a German wheel, usually seen on BMWs etc. They came in a 4 x 100 PCD i am trying to firstly get a picture of them and then try to hunt some down.
Paul Brell did the work on this car, it may have even been before BD4s started.
Any hint or suggestions ?
I have tried Ebay and there were plenty of centra wheels but not the type i was looking for.
Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Thu, 09 June 2005 10:19

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what year was that?
i have bit of a collection of ff&r and hot 4's mags that i started buying in 95 when i bought the feral (stopped buying the beloved V8 mags ).
i have lost a lot though from moving and moisture problems..
maybe after the w/end i might be able to pull a few boxes out and have a looksee.
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Location: Perth
Registered: May 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Thu, 09 June 2005 14:11

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feral4mr2 wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 18:19 |
i have lost a lot though from moisture problems..
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the cars are that good eh?
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Thu, 09 June 2005 14:21

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nah, a fully enclosed 6x4 trailer that leaks when it rains.
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Location: Perth, WA
Registered: December 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Thu, 09 June 2005 14:55

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feral4mr2 wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 22:21 |
nah, a fully enclosed 6x4 trailer that leaks when it rains.
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so...
its not really "fully hektikly enclosed"?

Eldar.O.
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Location: SYDNEY
Registered: November 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Thu, 09 June 2005 22:49

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Feral,
This was the FIRST magazine No 1
It was in 1988
Thanks for the help
And as for the moisture problems....well thats all very funny but does not help the cause
SOMEONE MUST HAVE ONE
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: March 2005
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Fri, 10 June 2005 00:43

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have you tried contacting hot4's? i know they do back issues but not sure if theyll go that far back for you.
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Location: SYDNEY
Registered: November 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Fri, 10 June 2005 00:45

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BOCKA wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 10:43 | have you tried contacting hot4's? i know they do back issues but not sure if theyll go that far back for you.
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No but i will try today
But for the record its
FAST FOURS AND ROTARIES (AS IT WAS KNOWN THEN )
NOT
HOT 4S
Thanks
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Location: Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
Registered: August 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Fri, 10 June 2005 06:45

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[quote title=GUN METAL 87 SC wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 10:45]BOCKA wrote on Fri, 10 June 2005 10:43 | But for the record its
FAST FOURS AND ROTARIES (AS IT WAS KNOWN THEN )
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Urm, are you saying its now a different name ? Or am i spending my newsagent reading time looking through some o/s <name deleted for fear of retardbution> magazine .
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Fri, 10 June 2005 06:52

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My dad has it I'll have a look for you now.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Fri, 10 June 2005 07:25

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I just checked it out. The photos aren't very good for showing the wheels there's only two shot's and they are 3 quarter rear and 3 quarter front.



If you wanna hunt down some old wheels for your car check these suckers out. I suggest the top left set for that F40 look...

If you want larger views of these shots I can email them to you.
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Location: Bathurst
Registered: September 2004
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Location: Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Fri, 10 June 2005 09:01

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Hot 4's is a different publication to FF&R. though they probably get edited/printed in the same place?
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Location: SYDNEY
Registered: November 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Sat, 11 June 2005 00:13

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Benjamin,
You are a FREAKING LEGEND !!!
Thanks for the pics, man this car brings back some memories, it was pretty much out there way back in 1988.
These wheels were originally diamond machine cut, really nice finish but the guy wanted them white so got them painted.
As you can see from the pics they really filled out the gaurds nicely and you dont see anything remotely like them any more.
The offset would be perfect for the AW11.
now all i have do do is find a set !!!!!!!
Thanks i really appreciate your help,
Scott
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Sat, 11 June 2005 01:45

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God that seca is.... FOWL
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Location: Toronto, Downtown
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Sat, 11 June 2005 03:04

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Arch wrote on Sat, 11 June 2005 11:45 | God that seca is.... FOWL
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are you kidding it looks alot tuffer than most secas today the only part i would have done different is to keep the lights stock
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Location: Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
Registered: August 2004
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Sat, 11 June 2005 05:27

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4agte wrote on Sat, 11 June 2005 13:04 |
Arch wrote on Sat, 11 June 2005 11:45 | God that seca is.... FOWL
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are you kidding it looks alot tuffer than most secas today the only part i would have done different is to keep the lights stock
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Humm, yes i would have kept the front lights untinted but the back end i'm unsure of, like, it looks good but......
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Location: SYDNEY
Registered: November 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Mon, 13 June 2005 03:45

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I know what you guys are saying it does look a little odd, but rember this in in 1988 !!!!
also the only extra bit of bodywork was a small front lip spoiler, the rest of it is as it came from Toyota with a bit of paint on it. these black lenses were all the rage then just like the clear lenses were about a year or so ago.
I still think it looks as good as anyother Seca i have seen other wise post some pics of some better ones !
anyway we are talking about the wheels not the car so anone have any ideas where to get some from ?
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Location: Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
Registered: August 2004
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Mon, 13 June 2005 07:55

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GUN METAL 87 SC wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 13:45 | I know what you guys are saying it does look a little odd, but rember this in in 1988 !!!!
<snipe> these black lenses were all the rage then just like the clear lenses were about a year or so ago.
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Even back then i didn't go for the tinted lights all that much, same with the clear tail lights. I know that for a fact cause i was a v8 bogan back then with eyes only for a supercharged 460 big block in a black falcon xb coupe Then i stopped dragging the knuckles cause i wanted a datsun 1600....
But anywhat, i think the car is also in a Hot4's mag that i've got floating around home here somewhere. I'll see if i can find it.
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Location: SYDNEY
Registered: November 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Thu, 16 June 2005 02:33

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towe_001 wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 17:55 |
GUN METAL 87 SC wrote on Mon, 13 June 2005 13:45 | I know what you guys are saying it does look a little odd, but rember this in in 1988 !!!!
<snipe> these black lenses were all the rage then just like the clear lenses were about a year or so ago.
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Even back then i didn't go for the tinted lights all that much, same with the clear tail lights. I know that for a fact cause i was a v8 bogan back then with eyes only for a supercharged 460 big block in a black falcon xb coupe Then i stopped dragging the knuckles cause i wanted a datsun 1600....
But anywhat, i think the car is also in a Hot4's mag that i've got floating around home here somewhere. I'll see if i can find it.
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have you found it yet ?
Would be interested to read the article.
Also anyone got any leads on these wheels ?
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Location: Somewhere on a dirt bowl ...
Registered: August 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Fri, 17 June 2005 00:28

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I thought it was an article on BD'4 them selves so i've been looking thought the contents pages of the hot 4's mag that i've got and the same with fast 4's but it came to nothing. I'm starting to think that it might have been just a two page ad.
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Location: SYDNEY
Registered: November 2004
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Re: Anyone out there with a copy of the FIRST FF & R ?
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Fri, 17 June 2005 04:58
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towe_001 wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 10:28 | I thought it was an article on BD'4 them selves so i've been looking thought the contents pages of the hot 4's mag that i've got and the same with fast 4's but it came to nothing. I'm starting to think that it might have been just a two page ad.
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i think this was prior the beginning of BD4s.
I got some work done on my AE82 back in 88 from Paul and it was all based from his house in the back of North Sydney
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