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RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 06:20
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Coming home a few days ago on King Georges Rd, an MR2 Spyder has been sitting behind me since the Silverwater on-ramp off Victoria Rd. Interested in a bit of spirited driving he wizzes up my back door, I get away from him fairly quickly and he catches up to me on Concord Rd (I think?) at the cross of Albert St. The driver turns out to be a Toyota salesperson, and his mate in the passenger seat is still dumbfounded from me leaving them behind on Silverwater Rd. The driver asks me what I've got in it, I tell him it's a third-gen 3S-GTE... he says it would probably blow him away, but I'm not so sure.
What kind of engine does the MR2 Spyder have on board? Is it a fourth-gen 3S engine? Regardless, power-to-weight ratio he'd have me for breakfast if he wanted to. 
Anyway, I told him and his mate to check out this site, since I don't believe we have any MR2 Spyder's on here yet... or do we??
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 06:25
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nope the mr2s's are girls car 1zzfe or whateevr it is 100kw motor the same thats in the bog stock corolla's, very slow
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 09:03
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You're kidding... you mean the MR2 has been relegated to a 1.8L VVT-i engine making no more than about 148hp?  That engine they also put in the RAV4's in Singapore. I would have thought a newer MR2 would have had a larger displacement than 1.8L... 
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 09:19
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no they have the 2zzfe i think its callesd, its a 140kw engine as seen in the sportivo, 5th gear did a test on them a few years back and tried to see if they could get missle lock from an apache gunship.. it failed these cars are like go carts!!! handling is awesome, -900kg car
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 09:34
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It looked like an agile little beast, but when he tried to step me up a gear, my boost came on quicker.  
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Newcastle, Australia
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March 2005
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 09:50
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Wasn't that a lotus?
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 09:55
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| CrAiGzEE wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 19:19 |
no they have the 2zzfe i think its callesd, its a 140kw engine as seen in the sportivo, 5th gear did a test on them a few years back and tried to see if they could get missle lock from an apache gunship.. it failed these cars are like go carts!!! handling is awesome, -900kg car
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no its not they have the 103kw motor, they have never had the 140kw sportivo motor thats in the lotus elise and exige but not the mr2
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 10:02
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The MR2 Spyder has an unforgettable bite. All-alloy in-line twin-cam VVT-i 4 cylinder 1.8 litre engine, 103kW of power, 170Nm of torque, clutchless 6 speed sequential manual transmission, steering wheel E-shift (and floor mounted short-throw gear lever), limited slip diff, front and rear MacPherson strut suspension with ball joint mounted stabiliser bars, aggressive aerodynamics, front and side air intake scoops, 15” front alloys, 16” rear alloys, 185 front tyres, and 215 rear tyres… Twice the excitement, and there’s no antidote!
take from www.toyota.com.au now stop spraying shity, they are gutless wonders
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 09 June 2005 11:17
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lotus elise arr thats it sorry take that back
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Sydney
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September 2004
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Fri, 10 June 2005 02:27
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| CrAiGzEE wrote on Thu, 09 June 2005 21:17 |
lotus elise arr thats it sorry take that back
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coincedentally the lotus uses a 140kw (well 147) Toyota engine as well
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GoldCoast/Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Fri, 10 June 2005 02:43
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They do now..... they had Rover 4 pot engines up until a few years ago.
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Campbelltown
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Fri, 10 June 2005 02:44
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try up until last year or the start of this year 
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Colac, Victoria
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Tue, 14 June 2005 07:53
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a recammed , re ecued 2zz - Im keen to see if they are any better to drive than the 2zz celica/spoertivo - lower revs to get on cam hopefully will = a more exciting package
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Sydney
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January 2003
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Wed, 15 June 2005 13:31
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Over overseas Spypders got the 2ZZGE, very not fair. They killed a perfectly good sports car(although they do handle like a dream).
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Fri, 17 June 2005 12:21
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2zz is an awesome engine when tuned!
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Campbelltown
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Sat, 18 June 2005 00:33
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yeah but thats a sequential six speed that sux the big one
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sydney,nsw.oz.
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Campbelltown
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Sun, 19 June 2005 00:19
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mate i guarentee you that i'd rather drive my car then be called a poof hairdresser for driving the mr2, and let me assure you it will cane any postie bike you throw against it and most small hatches on the road today, torque is the key and it has more than most hatches per kilogram can imagine.
And well lets see its my first car that i bought 2 years ago for 2K. Hmmm the mr2 is worth another 40K on that, i wonder why its a better car. And guess what as we speak i am saving and by the ewnd of this year i'll own a car that would serve the mr2 soft arse to it.
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sydney,nsw.oz.
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Sun, 19 June 2005 00:25
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Not all poofs are hairdressers. 
Hell I've met accountants , doctors, bank managers, mechanics,
Corona drivers the list goes on !
You just gotta know where to look!
Takin the piss there matey !
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Campbelltown
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Sun, 19 June 2005 00:32
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yeah no prob, i'm also probably a little to big to comfortably fit in an Mr2 to hehe, 90kg 6 foot tall, but fairly long legs for my height. I have nothing really against the mr2 except the fact it was a huge leap backwards from the sw20, no wonder it doesn't sell.
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Sun, 19 June 2005 00:37
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agreed !
The 3SGE is a ball tearer of a motor.
The new MR2 has gone soft : Semi Auto gearbox, no turbo option and they don't look as cool IMO.
That RAVGT4 should wipe it's nose and send it home!
Cheers
T
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Sun, 19 June 2005 11:04
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| Conquest wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 00:38 |
| Alchemist wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 23:31 |
Over overseas Spypders got the 2ZZGE, very not fair. They killed a perfectly good sports car(although they do handle like a dream).
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Nothing wrong with the 1ZZ In a light MR2 i'm sure they'd be a pretty decent engine, especially since they're also connected to a 6 speed gearbox...
Lets see, 3SGE = 103Kw while 1ZZFE = 100Kw, not much difference there, and with a lighter body they wouldn't need so much torque. My pet hate is the bloody rev limiter in the 1ZZ 
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That's fair enough but the last of the 3SGE powered MR2's sold in Australia had 128KW. The current model 3SGE's are making closer to 140.
The spider is a really good car, it handles awesome and is usefully quick. The problem is that we only get the sequential box and Toyota choose not to put the 2ZZ in them. If Toyota Australia sold the spider with a 2ZZ and real 6 speed I'd be in a lot more debt than I am now.
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Tue, 28 June 2005 14:57
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(Over overseas Spypders got the 2ZZGE, very not fair)
no they didnt
toyota never put this as an option
its just are pupular swap
just as wat im doing
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Melbourne
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August 2004
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Fri, 01 July 2005 04:33
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| ae86drift wrote on Fri, 17 June 2005 22:21 |
2zz is an awesome engine when tuned!
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An MR2 would be an absolute rocket will a well tuned 2zz. I have a 2zz Celica and it goes awesome, I just did my last dyno tune and I got 130.4 Kw @ wheels and thats with bolt ons only.
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Wed, 06 July 2005 06:55
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Kerb Weight (kg) 1035-1070
Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 1240
taken from www.toyota.com.au hardly the lightweight you think it is
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Mon, 08 August 2005 11:38
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[quote title=Conquest wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 00:38]| Alchemist wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 23:31 |
My pet hate is the bloody rev limiter in the 1ZZ
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thats for sure my mums got a corolla 2004 and that bloody rev limmiter is the biggest kill joy
its so sudden and and as soon as u hit redline or maybe a smiggen below it
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I supported Toymods
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Sat, 20 August 2005 01:28
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| Joshstix wrote on Sun, 19 June 2005 19:04 |
| Conquest wrote on Sat, 18 June 2005 00:38 |
| Alchemist wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 23:31 |
Over overseas Spypders got the 2ZZGE, very not fair. They killed a perfectly good sports car(although they do handle like a dream).
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Nothing wrong with the 1ZZ In a light MR2 i'm sure they'd be a pretty decent engine, especially since they're also connected to a 6 speed gearbox...
Lets see, 3SGE = 103Kw while 1ZZFE = 100Kw, not much difference there, and with a lighter body they wouldn't need so much torque. My pet hate is the bloody rev limiter in the 1ZZ
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That's fair enough but the last of the 3SGE powered MR2's sold in Australia had 128KW. The current model 3SGE's are making closer to 140.
The spider is a really good car, it handles awesome and is usefully quick. The problem is that we only get the sequential box and Toyota choose not to put the 2ZZ in them. If Toyota Australia sold the spider with a 2ZZ and real 6 speed I'd be in a lot more debt than I am now.
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does that mean my gen 3 in my 97 bathurst edition is 128kw?
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Sat, 20 August 2005 03:00
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i think you'll find its 129kw actually but meh
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Perth
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December 2004
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Re: RAV4 meets MR2 Spyder
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Thu, 01 December 2005 07:38
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I want to see a 3SGTE transplant into a Spyder. The engine wouldn't weigh much more, and there's no need for VCT with the right turbo charger - that's why Mitsubishi, who've had the technology for over a decade(the mivec 1.6 out of the "cyborg" kicks our 20V@130kw), have only just implemented it in the 4G63.
Then again, citing mitsubishi as an example of good strategy is a bad idea *mutters*
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