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I supported Toymods
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Mon, 13 June 2005 10:41
 
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You mean how norbie did it?
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Mon, 13 June 2005 10:54
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Hmm yes kinda like that. Except I wouldn't have a boxed section under the mount, the mount would bolt straight through into the xmember.
But yeah like Norbie's picture there the mount is horizontal.
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Mon, 13 June 2005 11:43
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only thing i see may pose a threat to this method is how far the motor is goig to 'torque' as i say side to side under load.
with a \ _ / setup brackets fall in to a tapered position i guess. Where as the flat mount allows extreme side to side shifting should the mount rubber split / fail etc.
Dunno engines may not move in the manner i say here but this is just me thinking out loud.
And about the only threat i can imagine to such a setup.
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Nathan
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Mon, 13 June 2005 23:38
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Hmm yes I see what you are saying.. Anyone else able to comment on if i'm better to keep them at a \ / sorta angle? Or flat ok?
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Tue, 14 June 2005 07:15
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falcons are mounted horizontally they dont really torque over that much even with the v8's, ford couriers/mazda b series utes also are mounted horizontally......and if you find that it does torque over too much you can put in stiffer mounts...
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Tue, 14 June 2005 08:28
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the difference will be the leverage on the bolts in the block...
if the mount is on a 45 deg angle, the same block weight is there, but there is less leverage on the bottom bolt...
i guess whaty i'm tryin to say is.. if the mount is angled, the engine will push the brackets into the rubber mounts...
if it's horizontal, you put a much greater tension on the bottom bolt.. tryin to pull it out of the block... whether this is an issue or not, i have no idea 
Cya, Stewart
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Tue, 14 June 2005 08:49
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Shouldn't be an issue.
7MGE's had horizontal mounts, where as 5MGE's had angled mounts.
Early 1UZ's had vertical mounts where as later ones had horizontal mounts.
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Tue, 14 June 2005 21:57
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So do you suggest using mounts that were intended to be mounted horizontal?
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Tue, 14 June 2005 22:48
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going by previous mention "hori" mounted vehicles, i guess it should be ok.
I would say yes to using mounts from a "hori" vehicle as such, as well as using upgraded / stronger bolts for mounting to overcome the potential issues on increased stress loads as explained by oldcorollas.
i wonder but if these "hori" mount vehicles have above norm engine bracing comparred to others?
GL
Nathan
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Wed, 15 June 2005 00:51
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| TurboRA28 wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 05:57 |
So do you suggest using mounts that were intended to be mounted horizontal?
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It shouldn't make a difference providing the mount is properly braced.
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Wed, 15 June 2005 01:08
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| CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 10:51 |
| TurboRA28 wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 05:57 |
So do you suggest using mounts that were intended to be mounted horizontal?
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It shouldn't make a difference providing the mount is properly braced.
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agreed, it's easy to make a mount pretty bloody strong... and if ther eis little difference in block design between the two types of mounting (ie available on same block) it should be foine 
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Wed, 15 June 2005 03:52
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| TurboRA28 wrote on Wed, 15 June 2005 07:27 |
So do you suggest using mounts that were intended to be mounted horizontal?
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I would say yes to this...
The style mount that you have in the photo AFAIK is made to move in a sliding motion, not in a up/down motion.
Using one this way may mean the engine moves side to side in the engine bay a lot and not let it rotate on its axis a little like its meant to.
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Re: Engine mount position/design question
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Wed, 15 June 2005 04:02
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Thanks for all the info 
I'm thinking I might be best to put them on an angle. Little bit more work but then I can retain the standard mounts.
Cheers
Joel
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