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Thom
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Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Wed, 22 June 2005 08:24 Go to next message
hi
i have a hilux with a worked 18RGEU in it and i have some Q's
the gearbox in there right now is screwed its impossible to get it in to second its noisey and they clutch is slipping.
i have no idea what model box is in there now how can i tell, i have a spare one but id assume thats screwed as well cos the hilux SR5 it came from was really rough plus it apears the same except the plate where the gear selector sits in has 6 bolts instead of 4.
so whats a good replacement gearbox, what model, is anyone selling one?
whats a decent clutch to get, bang for buck, i dont street race all night long and do burnouts all day but i want something thats not gonna destroy itself.
thanks for anyhelp
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omegaman
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Wed, 22 June 2005 10:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
G'day
All I can tell you is that theres 3x toyota 5 sp box. a p51 or a W50 (steel case)
Ratios are different on each. 2 of these boxes are rare.
The visible difference is the gear shifter positioning.
If you remove the bell housing , you then measure the distance from the steel case end to the base of the shifter.
There are 4 measurements.
A. 18"inches B.19" C.20.5" D.21"
Measure yours to find the right shift position.

Theres 5 stick positions on a alloy case A.14" B.18" C.19 D.20.5" E.21" (Type w55,w57,w58,w59.
These have diffirent ratio"s

I know I haven't answered your Q, as I dont know what box you have now, to go further.

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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Wed, 22 June 2005 10:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
G'day
All I can tell you is that theres 4x toyota 5 sp boxs.all called w50 or p51. )
Ratios are different on each. 2 of these boxes are rare.
The visible difference is the gear shifter positioning.
If you remove the bell housing , you then measure the distance from the steel case end to the base of the shifter.
There are 4 measurements.
A. 18"inches B.19" C.20.5" D.21"
Measure yours to find the right shift position.

Theres 5 stick positions on a alloy case A.14" B.18" C.19 D.20.5" E.21" (Type w55,w57,w58,w59.
These have diffirent ratio"s

I know I haven't answered your Q, as I dont know what box you have now, to go further.

[Updated on: Wed, 22 June 2005 10:20]

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brett_celicacoupe
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Wed, 22 June 2005 10:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
to see what gbox u have, look on the compliance plate.
read the "trans/axle" part. it should say transmission first(ie. W50) then the axle/diff it has (ie. "G303")
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Thom
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Wed, 22 June 2005 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i hae 2 one in the car one spare, relaly im not concerned wat they are, there both rooted, whats one i should be looking for. i want a strong one, a guy in the paper is selling a 18RGEU and gearbox, will the gearbox from that slot in to the tail n driveshafts of my lux?
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omegaman
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Sat, 25 June 2005 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
To be honest, you must check whats on the car now. Because hiluxs also have an r154 gbox, its pretty much the same as the supra turbo boxs, but the difference is the length of the front shaft. One is 160mm and the other is 190mm, only the bellhousing is different to suit the lengths of the shafts.
If theres a w50 in it now there shouldn't be a problem to replace with the same box, choosing your own ratios.
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Thom
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Tue, 28 June 2005 02:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is there any code printed on the gearbox housing to give away what model it is, the trucks already been off the road for a while and i dont wanna take the box out while i look for another unless i really have too, thanks
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Tue, 28 June 2005 02:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if its the standard box that came in the car check your compliance plate.
it has it printed on that.
other wise post of photo of it....


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Thom
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Wed, 29 June 2005 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well dam unlikely its original, well it isnt originally the ute ran a 12R with a 4spd columb shift.
i kno the spare box i had was a standard one, well id assume it was it was on the same model hilux SR5 2WD but as i said the housing for the gear lever had 6 bolts, the one in the car now has 4, so theres one difference.
tho when we had the boxes half out the drive shadt and tail shaft were the same, as far as i could see.
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Wed, 29 June 2005 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
have a look here and see if it matchs any of these.

http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/yoda_5spd_box es.html


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Thom
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Re: Help 18RGEU hilux gearbox Thu, 30 June 2005 06:17 Go to previous message
yeah i think the one in now is the celica steel case, see what i mean about the selector it has the selector boted down then below it is another housing peice that can be removed. thats whats in the car now.
the gear selector was the same as this but i had to put in the spare one that doenst work too well because the plate was mishaped onthe origainal and the bushing and spring would pop out wen selecting gears, ill spose ill have to go to my mates and find that.
what about taking it to a reco place. how much would i be looking at to get it recod. would that be a good idea?
also we had a bit of trouble getting that one out because my mate said the g/b cross member wouldnt unbolt it was welde but i have a feeling it unbolts .
more checking, was paying close attention to the housing bolts, my spare one apears to be http://www.conceptual.net.au/~peewee/Toyota_Supra_ 5spd.jpg
becuase of the selector housing. wich one would be worthwhile getting recod.
or is it better to get something else entirely.
thanks for the help
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