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Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 00:45 Go to next message
so.... does anyone know what auto/manual box is in the caldina? is it the same as the same age celica? (i think this is an ST215 caldina)
i've been looking for a manual one, but autos seem to be much much more common.
does the celica share the same drivetrain? can the boxes be swapped over?

do the auto boxes suck? or are the a viable alternative to a manual in the GT4's?

Cya, Stewart

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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains Fri, 24 June 2005 01:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
(thanks for moving the post Mods Very Happy, you guys are swell! )
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains Fri, 24 June 2005 03:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The Build Plate should tell you what model of Gearbox, unless it's in Kanji.

Can't imagine it would be too different from ST205.

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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains Fri, 24 June 2005 03:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's still an S block so yes the boxes are interchangeable. I'm yet to see a manual in the flesh and have only seen one dodgy pic of one. I have seen the 215 engine up close though and no probs putting any of the 3S celica/MR2 boxes on that block.
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My understanding of the auto box was it was tiptronic, so it might not be all bad?
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks fellas Smile

FWD, yeah it's kinda hard for me to communicate that i want to look at the build plate Laughing .. but i hadn't thought of checking gearbox code there Wink .. will do Smile

Justen, they are not very common at all.. out of maybe 100 caldina GT-T's for sale here, there are maybe 4 manuals...
what would you like pics of? i was going to get some under-car shots of driveshafts etc soon.. any suggestions for pics when i go for test drive?

Alchemist, the later St245 ones are tiptronic (and some are listed as manual! weird), but for 215's... i'll just have a look..
http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/goojp/used/spread_n _w.cgi?goo_car_id=0100050702A4002361010&areacd =12&baitai=goo&flag=&lang= this one says MT, and is obviously an auto Sad bugger ( i was looking at this one also..) looks different to the ST245 style, which has a seperate gate fro the tiptronic.. if ya know what i mean...


justen, do you know if there are big difference in driveshafts etc for 3S gearboxes? i guess i'm just trying to see if i can swap to a manual box later if i can't find an auto now (without importing a manual caldina frontcut later on...)

Cya, Stewart



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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tweakit imports had a ST215 manual half cut and were selling the engine and gearbox seperately. If that info is of any use to ou now that you're out of the country. Confused
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 06:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
holy shite!! $4K just for motor???
http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_info.php?cPath =58_70&products_id=748
i should bring some back Wink

then $550 to include the gearbox... wahhhhhh..... taki desu ne!!
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 07:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thats pretty harsh... a front cut without gearbox!
If it was an ST245 I could understand but the ST215 caldina's are basically an ST205 minus some of the good bits!
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 07:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
do you think an ST205 celica box will fit an ST215 caldina?? are they same floorpan etc?

just tryn to decid eif i should insist on a manual now.. or be an old man and live with auto.... Rolling Eyes
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It's a wagon any way you go.

All wagons are driven by old men Laughing



Personally I would go for Altezza RS200 if you can afford it.

How much are ST215s or RS200 ? In aussie dollars.


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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 07:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well.. for an ST215, with low k's (ie around 20K).. 2001 model.. $15-20K

for AS200/300 wagon 4WD, 2001, 30-50Kkms min $20-30K
not many in 4WD tho...
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 08:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
and anyway, i am an old man, so nyeah Razz heh heh Laughing
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 08:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Yeah nothing wrong with wagons.
My wife has a V6 Camry Wagon which I get 2 drive.
Nice out on the open road.

And I'm almost an old fart !

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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 08:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Why not just buy an auto and buy the gearbox and appropriate bits of dash from tweakit?
$500 for a gearbox isn't too bad but $4500 for an ST215 front cut minus panels minus gearbox etc. is a bit steep.
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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 08:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Toobs wrote on Fri, 24 June 2005 18:43

Why not just buy an auto and buy the gearbox and appropriate bits of dash from tweakit?
$500 for a gearbox isn't too bad but $4500 for an ST215 front cut minus panels minus gearbox etc. is a bit steep.


the gearbox is only available with motor Wink
maybe better to try and source one here before i leave....

but anyways, so basically, they may be available later, even at great cost Very Happy.. and i guess they will be more common as time goes on?

there's not many manual St215's here either.. seems maybe 5%? or maybe the manuals just aren't up for sale....

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Re: Caldina GT-T vs Celica GT4 gearbox/drivetrains??? Fri, 24 June 2005 09:11 Go to previous message
Hmm... tempted to go down there and put a $50 deposit on the motor only (no gearbox) and then after they pull the gearbox out call them and say I don't want the motor anymore Razz
That would fix em!
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