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pentae
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New Celica SX-R Fri, 24 June 2005 15:35 Go to next message
Hey Guys,

My girls parents just bought her her first car, a 99 Toyota Celica SX-R.

On the test drive it felt pretty underpowered, and I just went over to the redbook site to take a look and it says that the 2.2 litre 5S-FE only produces 100kw?

No wonder it felt so sluggish.

And further reading tells me that it does the 0-100 dash in 9.7 seconds..

Although the car isnt a turbo, why is it making such small amounts of power? Does anyone know if this model have variable valve timing?

The Honda Prelude we where also looking at is 147kw and does 0-100 in about 7. It also has a 2.2 litre engine. Big difference.. Sad

So I guess my question is, is there any 5S-FE owners here that have modified their car with an exhaust etc and noticed much of a performance difference? Is it possible that the car has been detuned for Australian conditions or suffocated by an exhaust system?

Other than the lack of power the rest of the car is really tidy, and we'll be taking delivery of it tomorrow.

Thanks for your help in advance. Smile


Edit: Sorry, I meant 0-100 times Wink

[Updated on: Sat, 25 June 2005 01:19]

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Arch
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Re: New Celica SX-R Fri, 24 June 2005 16:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
whoa man what a beast! 1/4 mile in 9.7 dayum

my choice would be the 7 second prelude tho! Laughing roflmao Laughing Laughing
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Re: New Celica SX-R Fri, 24 June 2005 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message

lol, im gonna take a stab in the dark and say he's looking at the kw (at engine) / weight (curb / dry weight)...

so 100kw - 30% = 70kw atw / weight + driver + fuel = 1100kg

giving a total (true) kw / kg figure of 15.7 + 1 sec for reaction (girl driver Razz )

= 16.7 sec quater mile...


Complete bullsh*t theory.. but close enough...
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Re: New Celica SX-R Fri, 24 June 2005 17:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
lol,

on a side note, faster car = faster time to shops = more time at shops = more of your money spent..

If she is not a hardcore racer spend the money on giving the car some individuality..

Go for seat covers, stereo, flashy lights... chicks dig preety stuff.. failing that box a pod filter and whack on a cat back exhuast / muffler of no less that 2'25" tip diameter to make it sound like she is going fast...

If you got the money go for BLING wheels... 5sfe and performance is just going to dissapoint..
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Re: New Celica SX-R Fri, 24 June 2005 22:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Wow, 7 Secon d prelude! Razz

Yeah, dont bother doing engine work, just get a set of nice 16" rims, and some lowered springs (i reccomend coilovers).
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Okay so its gutless.

Can anyone tell me what extra power a 2 1/4" straight through would get out of it in in kw? Would a performance difference even be noticeable?

I cant believe that an engine with such large capacity is so.. slow..

So your saying we shouldnt waste our time with the straight through? Smile
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 01:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well the 5sfe is designed to be an economical car and not a sports, because the 5sfe is off the camry's, i doubt you'd get any serious power from a straight through, might also need a CAI and maybe aftermarket ECU of some sort to get it to 110-120ish kw.
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 02:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well I just spoke to her and she sounds pretty happy with it. I think the lowering it on some lovells will probably be the only mod.

So what does the 5SFE have inside, a mouse on a wheel with a packet of cigarettes? Smile No VVTi?
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
if your really keen beans about performance - impoert a St202 GT frontcut from japan - its got a 3sge beams ( super pokey 2 litre twin cam ) motor and LSD standard

not cheap though - last check was about 5 grand for the front - but it would be a relatively straightforward swap

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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 06:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I thought the SX celica's had the 3S-GE? Obviously this isn't the case, what's the letters to engine codes for Celicas? (SX for Corolla being 4A-GE instead of 4A-FC for example)
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Nah man, Aus delivered celicas in 5th and 6th gen (after the st-162) used the 5s-fe with the exceptions of the GT-fours. Thats why their model numbers end in a 4 instead of a 2 i.e st-184 and st-204 as opposed to st-162.
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 06:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the sx celicas did have the 3sge, well the 4th gens st162, although the JDM versions of the gen 5 and 6 celicas had the 3sge, but oz specs had the 5sfe
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
no the OZ delivered celicas that were SXs stopped havin the 3sge in them when they went to st184 and started puttin 5sfes in them, till the newer ones that have VVTI, so basically in OZ the 3sge only went from 86 to 89 in celicas, though in japan they continued to have 3sges and lots other goodies such as Beams.
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
So what's the advantage of owning an SX Celica over a regular one? Interior features / wheel size, that sort of thing?
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
well if its an st162 if u have a sx u get a 3sge, if its an ST u get a 3sfe, models after i believe its just cosmetics ? ie spoiler, not to sure dont really like any celicas after st162s unless they GT4 or VVTI ( they are to girly Razz )
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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 06:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
luxo pack,

like Stinger Series is to Holden.

with stinger series, its usually a kit/skirts, special embroidery, rims etc. etc.

nothing at all to do with performance. just make it look better, the stinger series astras dont look all too bad...

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Re: New Celica SX-R Sat, 25 June 2005 08:27 Go to previous message
well i believe that the sx in the gen 6 was the base model, and they also had the ZR model, think that was the luxo pack.
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