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mazda 323 astina sp20
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Fri, 06 December 2002 00:14
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Has anybody been given a decent run by an SP20?
They seem to be pretty slow for 98kW??
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Central Coast & Sydney
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September 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Fri, 06 December 2002 07:05
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Doesn't an SP20 and the SR 2 have a an SR20 in it? I heard that they do...
I've never had the chance to look at one...
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Fri, 06 December 2002 11:25
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Nah, they just have the 2l engine from whatever is in Mazda 626's.
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The Rainy City
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May 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Sat, 07 December 2002 10:22
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theyre 2L twin cams.
a friend tried to give one a run in his newly bought r33 gts non turbo. got caned  needless to say we still dont let him forget it 
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Location:
Perth
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August 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Sun, 08 December 2002 14:47
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you shouldn't be so mean, he suffers everytime he drives his car
I was saying to a mate how sad it is to import an auto GTS-T...and he said its only sadder if its a non turbo.
I'm sure they're a nice car, but insurance is going to be a bitch for a 2 door import anyway, so surely u'd get something with some bollocks.
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Sydney
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November 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Mon, 09 December 2002 13:22
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So auto gts non-turbo's are that slow?
I've kept up w/ a done-up sp20 (exhaust + watever else + 1 passenger), with just me in an ae102 seca rv (exhaust+filter)...was slooowly pulling on him at 100++, but veeery slowly..plus head-to-head with a stock sp20 (no passengers), with 1 passenger in the ae102. Maybe they were auto's =P
gotta say sp20's look nice though, esp the sp20 sports sedans!
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Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Tue, 10 December 2002 04:38
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Yeah I had one pull up next to me for a traffic drag, Bright Yellow, lowered, and exhaust, "P's". Little did he Know I was in an S3 and he probably didn't know what Audi 'S' class is. So I had to play Gave him a small lead, then flooring it, waving as I went by. The Next set of lights, the poor guy pulls up again, with a weird look of 'what tha!' and ask's what I had done to an A3 to make it go so hard... Well? Nothing, mate!
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I've kept up w/ a done-up sp20 (exhaust + watever else + 1 passenger), with just me in an ae102 seca rv (exhaust+filter)...was slooowly pulling on him at 100++, but veeery slowly..plus head-to-head with a stock sp20 (no passengers), with 1 passenger in the ae102. Maybe they were auto's =P
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My RV use to go toe-toe (same mod's) with the last model V6's till about 180, then the Mazda's would start pulling away, I think I was a little quicker to 100, . I think that was the driver, not the car, because, sorry to say, this Drag ended in a bad way. I had slowed down and lost sight of him on the M4, only to catch up and see that he had lost control and slam into a pole, on a straight bit of road and without a blowouts either. I was quite shocked when I went by and saw the guys car split in two!! Lucky for him it was the car, not his life, he looked very shakened, and was sitting by the half that ended up on the side. Just goes to show, that I was really stupid in my youth, and things can go wrong, so all be careful.... All this was back before the street racing Laws were introduced too.
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Sydney
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November 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Fri, 13 December 2002 14:54
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hehehe, usually easier racing P platers too, although some do know what they're doing.
You should've told the dude you just had a big air filter that made your "A3" go
and aiyaa to that mazda driver..180 is way too fast on streets anyway.
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sydney
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July 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Sat, 04 January 2003 00:20
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for those who have drivin a SP20, must admit, the car has good handling. i luv ripping it round corners and stuff.
if i done stuff in that car, in mine. my tyres would've shredded.
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Location:
Ipswich
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July 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Mon, 06 January 2003 05:12
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My boss own a manual sp20 lowered with 18" wheels and exhaust.
It is a company car and every arvo when we leave work we race a bit. I'm in a 1ggte auto celica. He just gets a car length off the lights but get absolutely creamed once i get going.
It is quick for what it is but definately not anything u would call performance.
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Southern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Mon, 06 January 2003 13:55
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A mate a work just bought a brand spankin SP20 and acording to him it is an SR20DE motor in it.
Pretty much straight out of the old SSS pulsar. I had a look under the hood breifly but its all covered in plastic and rebaged mazda.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth
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May 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Mon, 06 January 2003 14:00
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The engine is nothing like an SR20, apart from the fact that it is 2l. It comes from the 626, it is fairly long in the stroke as well.
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GoldCoast/Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Thu, 09 January 2003 09:34
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Thats right JCMF!! Also 92kw?? The SSS SR20 from memory punched out around 100-105 kw! Correct me if I am wrong!
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Thu, 09 January 2003 10:23
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Thats right on the head, the last SSS Pulsar came with 105kW.
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Sydney
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November 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Thu, 09 January 2003 13:36
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with that in mind,
how have people faired against sr20's on the street?
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Thu, 09 January 2003 22:38
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well... ive pulled up next to a sp20 and a sss.. (i used to own a n14 sss)
The sp20's go no where...
off the line.. the gze left him eating tyre smoke 
and he couldnt catch.. needless to say.. he was a little pissed that an old 80's mr2 just chopped him..
The sr20 put up more of a fight.. but still.. nothing compared to the GZE.
The funniest lately for me was a old maserati Bi-turbo... down epping road.. ran this guy.. Chopped him by a car length.. pulls up next me at the lights.. 2 habibs.. He says .. "Whats in dat Bro?"..
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"nothing mate, just a standard 1600cc" bahahhaha.. Shouldve seen his face.. like he was going straight down to buy a couple of t88's..
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Sydney
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November 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Fri, 10 January 2003 08:43
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hehehe nice work, u got a good 2 for 1 deal there
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Fri, 10 January 2003 22:31
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Firstly, SR20 is a Nissan motor.
Secondly, SP20 and SR2 are Mazda/Ford vehicles. Why would they have nissan motors? It's like having a Falcon with a Holden V6 in it.
Finally, I wouldn't even bother comparing the SR20 to the Mazda 2.0L (I can't remember what the engine code is). SR20 has legendary status.
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Sat, 11 January 2003 12:08
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Oh that's right, because Holden never used a nissan engine, and the rb30et is a holden thing.
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Sat, 11 January 2003 23:44
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Relax pal, I never said VL engine was a Holden. Just said they wouldn't use a ford engine.
Jap engines were light years ahead of local power plants at the time so it can be justified.
Anyway, fact is the SP20/SR2 does NOT have the SSS motor (SR20DE) in it.
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Southern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Sun, 12 January 2003 14:31
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well the old Nissan pulsar used a holden engine... explain that.
I think it was the 88 model pulsar Q. Had the Holden "Family 2" 1.8L EFI engine in it out of the Camira.
and I'd hardly say the SR20 has legendary status... maybe among the ricers! My old ST162 celica used to eat N14 Pulsars easily.
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Central Coast & Sydney
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September 2002
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Sydney
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November 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Mon, 13 January 2003 12:18
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true true
but some of the N14 pulsars other than the SSS had a 2.0L engine..most of the TI's had em and some of the Q's did too.
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Southern Sydney
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August 2002
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Mon, 13 January 2003 13:25
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I am aware of this... yes it was a 2L. I think it was a Ti model which is basically a SSS with nicer interior and no side skirts etc.
The N14 SSS pulsar only put out 105 kW @ 6400 rpm.
Excuse me if I don't appear to be in awe.
Very similar to the Celica but slightly higher in the rev range. And I think the celica was about 100kg lighter.
Oh... by the way.... I make no appologies for defending Toyotas. Call me biased, but this is a toyota forum.
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Re: mazda 323 astina sp20
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Mon, 13 January 2003 20:25
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For a 10-15 year old motor, those figures look quite good when alot 2.0L engines these days can't crack the 100kw mark.
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well the old Nissan pulsar used a holden engine... explain that.
I think it was the 88 model pulsar Q. Had the Holden "Family 2" 1.8L EFI engine in it out of the Camira.
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Really? ok. I thought Camiras used Isuzu engines. but anyway
Fact still remains SP20/SR2 do not have NIssan SR20DE's
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Canberra
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October 2002
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