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Perth
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November 2004
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Tune up Fluid
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Fri, 01 July 2005 05:13
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Hey
Went down to super cheap auto, they have all these tune up fluids which are meant to help idling, and stuff like that.
My corona is having an idling problem, and i thought i'd give this a try?
is it any good? it's only bout 10 bucks so worth a shot, but i don't want it to damage my engine by any chance?
or shouldn't i even bother with the stuff?
The brand was wynn's and i THINK it was "supreme' or somethig
Also wondering, how many litres of oil does a normal corolla 1.8 or something usually take?
i have no idea the capacity on my corona, but i'm guessing all small cars will be similar
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Fri, 01 July 2005 05:15
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put nulon stop smoke in my car idles like a dream on the stuff, no joke the car is shitloads smoother at idel and just a lot quieter when i have some in. 
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Location:
Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Fri, 01 July 2005 05:16
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what corona do you have it should say in the service manual if its an rt142 or st141 i can check mine at home and tell you but from memory it is around 4.7L or something quiet alot for a 4cylinder.
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Location:
Perth
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November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Fri, 01 July 2005 07:50
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it's an ST190 Corona, 1.8 litre, and 1992 model
Import, and don't have a service manual 
Well, the idling is rough only at times... I'll try describe the rough feeling
i guess i get the feeling as if something is half blocked at times...
Perhaps also like a car, that hasn't been started for a long time.. But after it starts, it feels like it's almost gonna turn off..it's not that bad, but the SLIGHTEST feel of that.
There's also a noise that happens, seems to happen more so when the engine is really well warmed up... It only ever happens when car is idling and in drive, and OCCASIONALY (very rarely) in neutral. no idea how to describe the noise, except that it's like "tick tick tick tick" continously, at a constand rate...except it's not "tick" it's some other noise i can't describe
dunno if that helps??
It doesn't smoke, so is there any point in putting no smoke stuff in? I wanna get rid of thise stupid noise, and get it idling normally again..
When driving, the car is absolutely fine..One thing i have noticed though (it's an automatic btw), that when u accelerate moderately hard, is that when it reaches 70, it accelerates alot better, but quieter...and no, there is no gear change at that point... it just suddenly finds more power and sounds like engine is under alot less stress
:S
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Location:
Adelaide, SA
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June 2005
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Fri, 01 July 2005 12:40
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you'd be better off getting your car tuned and serviced properly by a licensed mechanic
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Location:
Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Fri, 01 July 2005 15:11
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what does a "good service and tune up" incorporate?
coz the cars had the problem for quiet a while now, it runs ok and so i haven't really been bothered by it
It gets serviced regularly at around 7.5k km's. just oil and oil filter
Plugs are changed every 5k, leads were changed about 15,000 km's ago
What else is incorportated in a service and tune up?
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Location:
sydney,nsw.oz.
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July 2002
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Fri, 01 July 2005 22:12
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| deeps wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 01:11 |
what does a "good service and tune up" incorporate?
coz the cars had the problem for quiet a while now, it runs ok and so i haven't really been bothered by it
It gets serviced regularly at around 7.5k km's. just oil and oil filter
Plugs are changed every 5k, leads were changed about 15,000 km's ago
What else is incorportated in a service and tune up?
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Changed the Air Filter/Fuel Filter?
Had the injectors cleaned ?
Checked the Air Intake hose for cracks/leaks ?
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Location:
Bundaberg, Qld.
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May 2002
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Fri, 01 July 2005 23:23
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yea. oil, oil filter, plugs, points (if it has them), rotor button, dist cap, check timing etc..
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Location:
Perth
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November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sat, 02 July 2005 03:17
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Changed the Air Filter/Fuel Filter?
Had the injectors cleaned ?
Checked the Air Intake hose for cracks/leaks ?
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yup both have been changed in the last 5000km's (air and fuel filter)
hmm, how do you check the air intake hose for cracks or leaks?
Upon visible inspection, there seems to be no cracks
I'm guessing a little bit of water would be the answer?
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Location:
Perth
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November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sat, 02 July 2005 03:20
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| feral4mr2 wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 09:23 |
yea. oil, oil filter, plugs, points (if it has them), rotor button, dist cap, check timing etc..
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ok, so i need to get rotor button, dist cap, and timing checked.
Except, i was under the impression on an efi, that the timing cannot be adjusted without takin the entire engine out and will cost almost as much as putting a new timing belt in?
Dist cap upon inspection seems to be in good nick, though hasn't been changed for quiet a number of km's. Do i really need to change it?
What's the rotor button (i think it's wha'ts underneat the dist cap correct?) and how much do they cost?
My biggest problem, is that i own an import, and it's very hard to know what parts this car needs, as none of the books at the stores have my car on it!
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Location:
Perth
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November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sat, 02 July 2005 03:24
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well i bought some wynn's Tune Up Supreme, and chucked it in... No real difference as yet, but haven't reaaaaaly driven it much.
How much driving would you expect before i notice anything?
If i get no difference, i'll chuck in some Stop Smoke as well.. There should be no problems having both in there at the same time right?
sorry, as u can see, i'm not THAT crash hot bout cars  but i wanna learn
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Location:
sydney,nsw.oz.
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July 2002
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sat, 02 July 2005 10:28
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| deeps wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 13:20 |
ok, so i need to get rotor button, dist cap, and timing checked.
Except, i was under the impression on an efi, that the timing cannot be adjusted without takin the entire engine out and will cost almost as much as putting a new timing belt in?
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The Ignition Timing, not camshaft timing.
Can be done with motor in car.You need a timing light to check this,
| deeps wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 13:20 |
Dist cap upon inspection seems to be in good nick, though hasn't been changed for quiet a number of km's. Do i really need to change it?
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Wouldn't hurt : they do crack which can cause mis-firing, and they are fairly cheap.
| deeps wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 13:20 |
What's the rotor button (i think it's wha'ts underneat the dist cap correct?) and how much do they cost?
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Correct, should cost no more than $20.00.
| deeps wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 13:20 |
My biggest problem, is that i own an import, and it's very hard to know what parts this car needs, as none of the books at the stores have my car on it!
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Get the model of the engine : thats a good place to start. Is it a 1S-Ci ? or 4S-Fe should be written on the motor or under the bonnet somewhere
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sat, 02 July 2005 14:47
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it's a 4S-FE
unfortunately most shops dont have it on the catalogue, and it takes forever to work out what part i need
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sat, 02 July 2005 14:50
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i've considered changing my dizzy cap, but as i mentioned bfore, i don't know which one i'm meant to get!
same with the rotor! If i knew which one, i'd get around to changing it
also wondering, i've seen dizzy caps at super cheap auto and the like, but haven't seen a rotor button, and tbh have no idea what they look like... have heard that they're relatively easy to change though..
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sat, 02 July 2005 15:47
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Replace the PCV (positive crankcase ventilation) valve. It can make your car run rough or stall if it gets clogged, and it's cheap and easy to replace.
what exactly is that? and where is it? how do i replace it? could that be the problem?
hhehe, sorry for the spanish inquisition 
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Location:
Bundaberg, Qld.
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sun, 03 July 2005 02:19
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| deeps wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 13:24 |
If i get no difference, i'll chuck in some Stop Smoke as well.. There should be no problems having both in there at the same time right?
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unless your car is spewing blue/grey smoke from the exhaust there is no need to go wasteing your money on stop smoke additives. half the time them additives dont work anyways.
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered:
January 2003
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sun, 03 July 2005 02:45
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just remember to change the blinker fluid while you are there....
sorry, i'm just being a smart arse
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
November 2004
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sun, 03 July 2005 07:37
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| feral4mr2 wrote on Sun, 03 July 2005 12:19 |
| deeps wrote on Sat, 02 July 2005 13:24 |
If i get no difference, i'll chuck in some Stop Smoke as well.. There should be no problems having both in there at the same time right?
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unless your car is spewing blue/grey smoke from the exhaust there is no need to go wasteing your money on stop smoke additives. half the time them additives dont work anyways.
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nope no blue or any weird smoke at all... just someone suggested it earlier, so i thought i'd give it a whirl
ANYWAY, i THINK i've found my problem..
i just noticed something...feel rather silly
It says idle speed should be 650rpm... however, in small print down the bottom, it says for automatic transmission, it should be 750rpm..
it's only doing about 600-650rpm, and definatley not 750rpm when in drive... however seein that it shld be tuned in neutral, neutral is about 650-700rpm
So i'm guessing it's as simple as that? Now, can a simple midas dude fix the idle speed? or is it still a job for toyota? I don't think i'd have to pay too much to fix such a simple thing right?
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Location:
Campbelltown
Registered:
November 2003
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Re: Tune up Fluid
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Sun, 03 July 2005 09:04
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hehe doesn't work my arse, done my car a treat and it spun the rollers at 63.2kw today rofl
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