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V8_MA61
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DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 11:10

I was at a wreckers today doing the never-ending quest for ms123 rear hubs and ms65 front hubs. I found no crowns (SURPRISE!) but i came accross a 1972 Datsun 240C 6 Cylinder. I was almost fooled, because it actually looks very similar to the ms85 crown that i own! It had a double wishbone front suspension setup also. It also has 5-stud hub-type brakes. I was wondering if anyone had come accross this model in their trials for hubs? Ive never seen one of these before, so maybe they are rare? Anyway 1972 being the year MS65 were available, i thought nissan and toyota may have shared some similar parts...We know they are the same with the z31 etc! thanks guys Blake [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 11:43

In a similar vein of discussion, does it HAVE to be an MS123 Crown? will MS112 not work? For the trailing arms I mean. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 11:46

ma61 = IRS MS123 = irs MS112 and before = SOLID axle Answer your question Sorry i forgot to mention the Datsun hubs im referring to are for the front. Irrelevant for the rears. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 11:50

Oh, well yeah, that certainly rules that out I only asked cause I always see MS112 Crowns for sale, I figured if they're more common.. but never mind. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 12:33

sen any cheap? im keen on one of those in good nic [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 12:34

i suggest seeing what bearings they use - NGK or CBC etc. would be able to advise? cheers, charles. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 12:36

i might just take the verniers to the wreckers. im lazy tho...lol does ngk have a site where you can get specifics on bearing size etc? [Updated on: Mon, 04 July 2005 12:37] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 12:39

just ring 'em up and ask for part numbers? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 12:44

thanks charles, sounds like a plan [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 12:53

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_conten t.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=2240259&current_r ec=1&used_rec=0&total_rec=2&sort_type= &total_rec=2&sort_type=&make_id=8& model_id=246&state_id=-1&search_distance=2 5 There's an MS112 for $880, in Labrador. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 12:55

they are tough [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 21:45

Ed has been through this before. The way he worked it out was "What cars used the same bearing sets as the MA61" and went from there. The reason why the Z31T popped up later is that it uses a different grease seal. The 5 Stud Starion's (not released here) also work. You can get the data from bearing books regardless of the bearing brand once you know the number. Bribe your local bearing supplier for a book. Cheers Michael B [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 22:57

The bearing data is actually online. Just type "bearing catalogue" into google and reap the profits. No need to bribe or ask favors from pimply faced teenagers who have no idea. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 23:04

What about pimply bums? Hey GT, your On Probation!! Damm boy, you been playin up? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Mon, 04 July 2005 23:15

For doing what I do best, being a wanker. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?

Mon, 04 July 2005 23:28

gianttomato wrote on Tue, 05 July 2005 09:15

For doing what I do best, being a wanker. Laughing

Please feel free to join my club Smile

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?

Mon, 04 July 2005 23:29

gianttomato wrote on Tue, 05 July 2005 08:45

For doing what I do best, being a wanker. Laughing

Yes you were a naughty boy !!!!

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Tue, 05 July 2005 04:55

It was highly amusing though. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?

Tue, 05 July 2005 07:51

gianttomato wrote on Tue, 05 July 2005 08:45

For doing what I do best, being a wanker. Laughing

What's all this probation about GT? Confused

I'm finding it all a bit puzzling?? Laughing

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V8_MA61
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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Tue, 05 July 2005 08:56

so did ed ever test a 240C hub? [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?

Tue, 05 July 2005 21:16

V8_MA61 wrote on Tue, 05 July 2005 18:26

so did ed ever test a 240C hub?

I pretty sure he didn't.

Read here.

http://www4.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/ fronthub.html

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?

Tue, 05 July 2005 23:35

Norbie wrote on Tue, 05 July 2005 14:55

It was highly amusing though. Laughing

Nevertheless I'm still waiting for my "Team Ride or Die" windscreen sticker. I'm sure if I trawl thru Tech I'll be able to find how to apply the sticker without leaving behind those pesky air bubbles.
Can't wait for my first sound off in the "Decibel Dyno"!

Now seriously, Blake, vernier calipers are your friend. If you don't have a set, just write down the bearing numbers (located on the races) for the inners and outers. Find an online catalogue and compare them to your MA61 part numbers. There will possibly be other differences like grease seals. For example, HQ hubs and rotors fit the MS55 but there is a subtle difference with the grease seal and you need to mill off about 2-3mm so there is no fouling. Just use what you have.
Ultimately, how much are hubs? A whole $40 for the pair. Buy them and suck it and see. Then you could let us know for a change. Laughing

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Wed, 06 July 2005 10:10

Ah well dave, you only said what the rest of us would have said if we'd been drinking the good stuff I would have taken it as a compliment and asked you out for dinner, other people complain.. you can't please everyone [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Wed, 06 July 2005 23:43

I assume you want to do a 5 stud conversion like me. Everyone told me that ms65 hubs are almost impossible to find, and I spent time trying to find something to suit like you, but only got more confused with conflicting info. I used the net to locate parts around Australia and tracked down 4 sets of ms65 hubs at very reasonable prices in a matter of minutes. Prices ranged from $30/pair (remove yourself), $115/pair (posted to me), to $215/pair. [Report message to a moderator]

bbaacchhyy
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Re: DATSUN 240C HUBS 5 STUD...Anyone trialed them?	Wed, 06 July 2005 23:50

They are there to be found, it just depends on how much effort you are prepared to put in. Cheers Michael B [Report message to a moderator]

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