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negative camber
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Sun, 10 July 2005 11:23
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to put some negative camber on the font wheels of a sprinter do i just need longer bottom control arms or are there other parts I need? Also can you get offset bushes to increase camber? Is this a worthwhile modification as I plan mainly to use the car for drifting. Any advice is appreciated
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Canberra
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June 2005
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Re: negative camber
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Thu, 14 July 2005 10:50
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Maurits,
Here are my four ways to gain negative camber on Sprinters and any other Toyota using a similar "Macpherson Strut" front:
1) Just as you suggest by lengthening the lower control arm. There is a "thread" about control arms modified to use "rose joints" which allows a wide range of camber adjustment and better than a "cut and shut" extension. I know of no offset bushes available.
2) Redrill the mouting hole location on the crossmember and perhaps weld steel plates in, to allow the hole to be moved even further out.
3) Purchase a suitable Adjustable top for the strut such as the ones from K-Mac.
4) Bend the strut at the lowest point.
A good set-up I use for my race car (TA22) is 2 degrees negative and as much positive castor that can be gained from the radius rod.
Option one and two would be the best for drifting. The increased track will be benificial, but may push the wheels out past the guards.
So option three is the next best.
Option four will result in decreased clearance between the tyre/rim and the strut and will be worse if you use spring platforms.
Or combine the first three to give the greatest flexability.
I use option two in my "avatar" TA-22 and still needed to bend one strut to match and get the 1.5 negative on both sides.
I used all four in the race car and will again in the new shell.
Regards
Rodger
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Sutherland Shire
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April 2003
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Re: negative camber
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Fri, 15 July 2005 01:46
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chrysler sigma control arms. ra40 celica tie rods
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: negative camber
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Fri, 15 July 2005 03:31
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| maurits wrote on Sun, 10 July 2005 21:23 |
to put some negative camber on the font wheels of a sprinter do i just need longer bottom control arms or are there other parts I need? Also can you get offset bushes to increase camber? Is this a worthwhile modification as I plan mainly to use the car for drifting. Any advice is appreciated
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your car comes with negative camber from factory 
if you want to look "fully sik while dorifting bro" then you will need at least 5 deg of camber, cos everyone knows that the D1 guys run heeeaps of camber, so it must be good.
advice? actually drift the car, see where the front wheels wear, or use tyre pyrometer to check temps between inside, middle, and utside of tread and then adjust camber accordingly.
sorry if ti sounds like i'm taking thew piss a bit.... i am 
if you were going to drive the car then camber can be a great thing when combined with the right castor (it's all about the camber change curve with steering input), but drifting? depends how serious you want to get. if you are just starting out... just drive the car as is and see what it NEEDS, not what the SiK BoYz say you do...
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Location:
Townsville
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February 2005
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Re: negative camber
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Fri, 15 July 2005 03:50
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We used the sigma control arms on the t18. Works great. That was with the celica struts which gave a nice brake upgrade bonus too.
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Rosanna, Melb
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June 2002
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Re: negative camber
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Fri, 15 July 2005 04:09
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Drifting with -2deg camber I still wear the outside edge of the tyre first. Probably due to the amount of understeering I do caused by a lack of skill and a locked diff.
2-4 deg would be a suitable range in my opinion. Use the sigma or adjustable arms, adjustable strut tops and/or offset roll centre adjusters to get some camber. But giving it a go and finding out what suits is the most important.
Hen
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orange
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June 2005
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Re: negative camber
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Tue, 19 July 2005 06:35
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thanks heaps for the advice mate, very helpfull I'll look for that info on controle arms.... cheers
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