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Rukas
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4agte computer Sun, 17 July 2005 11:29 Go to next message
hey all
I'm just wondering what would be the best computer to run on a 4agte?????
at the moment i have a haltech e6k ready to go on but i dunno if it any good for this engine..
any 1 help me out please do Wink
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Re: 4agte computer Sun, 17 July 2005 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
also if i can get a micro-tech (brand new) for cheap would this be a better option??
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Re: 4agte computer Sun, 17 July 2005 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
E6K will be fine on the 4agte .

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Re: 4agte computer Sun, 17 July 2005 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yep use the e6k
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Re: 4agte computer Sun, 17 July 2005 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
but would mirco-tech be better at all???
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Re: 4agte computer Sun, 17 July 2005 13:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Rukas wrote on Sun, 17 July 2005 22:54

but would mirco-tech be better at all???


Sure it will - you'll immediately have more wog appeal.

If you've got an E6K already, why the hell not use it?
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Re: 4agte computer Sun, 17 July 2005 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the plug on the e6k is on a wiring loom for my 20v
and if i think of selln the 20v i will do it with ecu and loom...
how much u rekon il get for a 20v silvertop with 5 speed 20v box and e6k and harness????
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Re: 4agte computer Sun, 17 July 2005 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
My suggestion would be to put it up for sale, and ask anyone who's interested whether they'd rather have the ECU or not - chances are you'd be better off the keep the ECU you have than to sell it and then go buy another one straight away.
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Re: 4agte computer Tue, 19 July 2005 04:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sounds good but i can prob get a mircotech installed and tuned for a quite decent price.....
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Re: 4agte computer Tue, 19 July 2005 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mate you have answered your own question time and time again. you obviously want mircotech so buy it, personally i think its absolute crap, but this is my view and only my view. i would stick with haltek, EMS or motec
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Re: 4agte computer Tue, 19 July 2005 06:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
depends on your budget!cheap but do the job go microtech,wolf,haltek,ems or expensive and have the bells and wisltes motec or autronic.
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Re: 4agte computer Tue, 19 July 2005 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got told that haltech are harder to tune then any otha ecu is this true?? or is there just not enuff ppl who know how to tune with them??
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Re: 4agte computer Tue, 19 July 2005 14:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the haltech should be fine for your application if it were me i would stay away from microtechs altho people on these forums use them and get good results. Thats why i bought a Wolf 3d Ver4 Plus which im getting installed and tuned for $1000 as we speak.
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Re: 4agte computer Tue, 19 July 2005 14:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
only reason mkicroptechs have bad name is the fukin tight asses whoi buy them cant afford to get it tuned properly

i dont know how places can supply wire and tune in ecus for under 2000 and do a very good job

some places fit a full microtech loom and tune it pretty cheap and when i look at the job its so fukt

and then when u go to drive the car it might beok but if its a very cold mornin it runs like shit

it takes afew days to tune any aftermarket ecu especially gettin the cold start to work properly
u need ot keep it for afew mornings and test it

now to do this its not cheap

any ecu needs this sort of work to get it to be good enough so as it doesnt get a bad name

a motec or autronic can be just as bad as a microtech if tuned badly

personally microtech shits on haltech and wolf and ems

mainly becuase they are plain and simple and start every time

most engines dont need ecus with many extras

the main advantage u get with a motec or autrronic apart form more outputs is the actually internal processor and how it calculates everything

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Re: 4agte computer Wed, 20 July 2005 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for that really helpfull
i was thinking micro tech but form what ppl sayn der shit..
Does any 1 have the perfect answers to this i really wanna get the best at the riight price.. Thanks
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Re: 4agte computer Wed, 20 July 2005 06:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Quote:

i was thinking micro tech but form what ppl sayn der shit..


Here are some facts straight from an MTX8 user (me) Wink

Engine 4AGTE

ECU: MTX8

Cold start temp range I have experienced and have the car fire first go and idle perfectly on its own: -7 Shocked to 42 degrees celcius

Highway fuel consumption: <7L/100km

City driving varied between "spirited" driving and cruising: anywhere from 9L - 12L/100km (depends on how deep the go pedal is buried)

Max power: ~170rwkw @ 18psi

1/4 mile: 12.8 @ 108mph

How long has the MTX8 been fitted: approx 2 years

Comments, it idles smooth, it drives beautifully, it makes reasonable power, has been reliable, and basically does what it's meant to. Anyone who has been in or driven my car always comments on how fantastic it drives. My ECU has been installed correctly and was tuned by a reputable tuner, hence it WORKS damn well.

The ECU doesn't have any/many auxillary inputs/outputs, can't datalog etc, but I don't need those functions so it's fine for me (barely get enough time to drive the thing let alone sit at home and analyse what it's done on a drive).

I couldn't care less what ECU people use as no cash goes in my pocket, but from what I have experienced, every Microtech MTX and later model has performed well when installed correctly and tuned well. The only ones that I have seen perform like most people describe i.e. shit, was installed by a retard and run on a base map with a slight tinkering on the road by a "dude" with no idea Rolling Eyes .

People really need to back up their claims on this forum sometimes instead of just talking 8th hand bullshit they overheard at a dyno day they went to to watch their mates car run at Wink

Oh, I heard that modified cars are unreliable and it's best not to own one......... Wink

In summary: use what ever ECU you like, they all have pros and cons. If your car is a bucket and you get a dodgy dude to do the tuning no brand of ECU will save you!!!!!

Don't believe everything you read on a forum, some khunts on here have never owned a car let alone turned a spanner
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Re: 4agte computer Wed, 20 July 2005 06:47 Go to previous message
"was installed by a retard and run on a base map with a slight tinkering on the road by a "dude" with no idea"

haha said like a man after my own heart.
i once asked a customer that bought in car who tuned his aftermarket computer. he said he did it himself,and its been running kind of funny since he put it in.i asked,have you had any experience tuning, yes was his reply, ive done a few gas powered RC cars.had the boys laughing for half the year.

if you on a tighter budget get a microtech and spend the extra on a good install and tune. get someone like sideshow to wire it and then go to a good tune place like SAS and get dave or jimmy to tune it or another place that has a good real reputation.there are very few people about that really know the ins and outs of getting the best possible tune.choose wisely.
you woud be looking about the $3500 mark all up.
mick
p.s some tuners are only good for tuning radios.lol
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