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WA
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May 2005
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 01:14
 
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A Gas Research throttle body will bolt on nicely, it's huge and it comes in lots of different colours.
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Brisbane
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April 2003
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 02:22
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Would be interesting to see what is available... besides LPG 
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Arthurs Creek, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 02:52
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Is there anything else beside LPG??
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Brisbane
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April 2003
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:05
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In your case... no
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Location:
Brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: 1G-GTE AFM upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:09
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what about the AFM??? are there any less restrictive alternatives?
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:38
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| VeeP wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 01:06 |
does anybody know of a bolton or minimal modification throttle body upgrade for a 1G-GTE?
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silly response: the only response to michael bolton is to STFU or die!
seriously: the incoming flow-restrictions are in the AFM and sub-sized piping - enlarge the piping and change to a MAP-based engine management. This requires little if any modification of the TB but substantial damage to your wallet.
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Location:
Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:42
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so once you've changed to some aftermarket engine management with a MAP setup instead of AFM, and you've got some larger piping, are you saying that makes a difference straight away?
Or rather it provides the potential for more of a difference?
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Location:
Brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:42
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/me thinks AFM => MAP conversion means new ECU too??? = $
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Central Coast, NSW
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February 2005
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:45
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| hickoz_bro wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 13:42 |
/me thinks AFM => MAP conversion means new ECU too??? = $
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Brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:48
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/me thinks the AFM set up blows...
why can't they just take a sample of the air flow (divert a small amount of flow) restrict that, measure the air flow volume/speed, and let the rest go on like a happy little vegemite?
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Brisbane
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February 2003
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:51
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| Merudo wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 13:42 |
so once you've changed to some aftermarket engine management with a MAP setup instead of AFM, and you've got some larger piping, are you saying that makes a difference straight away?
Or rather it provides the potential for more of a difference?
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the later - it provides you with:
tunable ECU (rather than blindly tinkering with the AFM)
elimination of obvious flow restrictions
you could put an aftermarket ECU (or a $300 megasquirt ECU like i'll do) on and get less power - the effort will be in the tuning and improvements to induction - then you can focus on stuff like turbo(s), cams, zorst, etc
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 03:53
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Because it needs to know EXACTLY how much air is going in.
Your not going to get rid of the AFM without changing the ECU.
That said.....
There are a great many things that can and should be changed prior to upgrading the throttle body and POST upgrading the ECU..
I have only changed mine for just a FEW obvious reasons.
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Location:
Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 07:40
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hi there
i think you will find that an xf throttle body fits. i am pretty sure it is a bolt on... same bolt pattern.
Cheers
Stew
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Malaysia,Kuala Lumpur
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July 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 08:07
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Pardon ME Sir...XF ? What type of car are you referring to please.
Thanks
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Location:
Newcastle
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May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 08:12
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hi,
xf falcon
stew
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Sutho/Hills NSW
Registered:
September 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Wed, 20 July 2005 08:13
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try and get the plug for the tps also
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Thu, 21 July 2005 02:14
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The XF Falcon TB will fit, HOWEVER. THe TPS that comes with it won't be a 'plugin' option for the toyota management I don't think.
It'll be more of a "Plug and Pray" scenario.
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Location:
Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Thu, 21 July 2005 03:38
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Ok firstly, if you want to test the restrictiness of the afm, hook up a manometer before and after the afm, and see the difference in inches of water and you can then convert that back to a reletive psi drop accross the afm. Secondly there is absolutly no fucking need to change the t/body to a larger item if you a) are using stock ecu b) using stock turbos c) stock cooler, ect, you will never see the benefit with any stock components being changed or modified. That said a XF t/body will line up with the bolt holes perfectly, but dont do wat some dickheads do and not bore out the hole in the plenum to suit, you will cost yourself performance that way. But dont always think a bigger t body is better, its all relative to the power ouput and capacity of a motor, just like exhaust size. With a aftermarket ecu you would have no problem using the ford tps either 
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Thu, 21 July 2005 04:03
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Didn't say you'd have a problem with the ford TPS with an aftermarket ECU, it's only the standard ECU that would cause problems.
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Brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Thu, 21 July 2005 23:34
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what advantages does the XF TB offer over the stock TB? just larger bore? or is there more to it?
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 00:36
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Larger bore and larger butterfly. But seriously man, Fattony is absolutely right. THere are SOOOO many things you should change before the factory TB anyway....
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Location:
Brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 00:38
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ahhhh no doubt, i got no intentions to change the stock TB... i think the AFM would be one of the first things i'd like to see go
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 01:36
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Seriously, it's costly but aftermarket management will change the possibilities endlessly. The amount of fucking around you'll have to do with stock management is just fuckgin silly.
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Location:
Brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 01:38
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of course... first on my list of things to do is.... get engine running 
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 01:53
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Get engine running, with standard management := Time and headache + probably (wasted) money
Get engine running with aftermarket management := Bit more time, less headache for sure, and money, but not wasted..
Do it once, do it right, or don't complain.
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 02:03
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*ahem* get the stock engine running, with stock ECU, and stock AFM, stock TB, ie... get it running first time... i'll start with stock, modify it when money allows...
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 02:06
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Best of luck with the Stock ECU and Stock Loom, into your Stock RA28.. But ok, if you want..
Been there, done that. Will require modification.....
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Location:
Brisbane
Registered:
October 2004
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 02:08
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and less money for the moment... lol... i'm just a poor uni bum... leave me alone 
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Location:
Arthurs Creek, Victoria
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 02:09
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It may appear like less money at the time...
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Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
May 2002
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Re: 1G-GTE throttle body upgrade?
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Fri, 22 July 2005 11:22
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go the stock management.
it is a piece of piss to get up and runnin.
the stock management does alot better than most people give it credit for.
my 28 has run a 12.5 sec 1/4 @ 110.9MPH on factory management so dont be afraid to have a go.
Cheers
Stew
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