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Location: Land of Oz
Registered: June 2004
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Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 04:50
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Hi,
Getting broadband put on at home for the family but alas they (my ISP) told me I need to use Win98SE or later. Sadly I only have the old original Win98. So, it looks like I'm gonna be dragged into the 21st century and get XP.
I have two choices.
1st choice I reformat my current HDD and load XP. I'll have to save a whole bunch of private files and other stuff by burning it to CDs, then reloading it afterwards.
2nd choice is to buy a new HDD and put XP onto that. Then I make my old HDD the slave drive. I'm assuming if I do this then I can read the old drive without a problem? This seems like a better way of doing it, and I doubt there'd be an issue with XP reading stuff on my old Win98 HDD. Actually, I really only need the old drive to transfer private files and any required application data. I got all the apps and games on CD to reload.
Oh, but I want to be able to transfer my email stuff and also my favourite URLs.
Any advice or pitfalls in my plans?
seeyuzz
river
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Location: c'town, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 05:04
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yep option 2 is easily doable and prolly the best option
whats the specs on your machine tho is it a slow machine will xp run on it? if not i have a copy of win98SE if u wanna stay oldskool, u can visit me at work in blacktown ill give to u
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Location: Land of Oz
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 05:20
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Hi,
It's a 1G Athlon. It's got 256M of RAM, but I got another 256M memory module to get it up to 512M.
As I'll be in the city of churches and the PC is staying (I'll try and get something more decent while I'm over there) it will be mainly used for browsing the net and small-time card games.
I'm the only one who stresses it with FS4 and other games that require the machine/graphics to work hard.
I think it'll run XP without any issues and be fast enough for the family to use.
Thanks for the offer on Win98SE, but I better make a leap into XP. I got my old DOS systems (PC, PC/XT, PC/AT) stuff to play with when I wanna go old school.
seeyuzz
river
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I supported Toymods
Location: Brisbane
Registered: September 2004
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Location: c'town, NSW
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 05:23
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yeah that machine will be fine ive had XP on a PII300 working fine for net browsing etc.
option 2 is teh win
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Location: Perth Western Australia
Registered: April 2004
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 07:00
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bah.. you dont need to upgrade at all.
if theres one thing ive learnt in the years ive been in the industry its that Level 1 ISP Heldesk Support dont know shit outside whats on their screen in front of them..
firstly how are u connecting?
are you connecting via a standalone modem? (usb? rj45?)
are you connecting via a router/adsl bridge (rj45?)
most network card drivers, including cheap piece of shit cards for $10 from joe blows computer store down the road have 98SE drivers on them which still work on 98 first edition.. you just obviously dont have Internet Connection Sharing or any of that shit from SE..
so long as the network card works fine and pings your router fine.. using tcipcfg and stuff.. then you should have NO problem getting online and using the router as your gateway..
if its a USB modem then you may have some trouble.. but who buys them anymore!?!
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I supported Toymods
Location: Brisbane
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 07:01
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Me! but then it was given to me with the internet connection
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 07:34
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ahh.. yeah those ISP's ay
they lock u into a contract for so long and youre paying the hardware off twice over in the hidden costs..
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I supported Toymods
Location: Brisbane
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 08:02
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meh, I don't think it's a bad deal. I'm with optus cable, we've got land line / mobiles / tv through them aswell. That and I certainly did NOT want to have Telstra.
Only two cable choices
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 08:48
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oh cable..thats different. you dont really get much of a choice there and theres bugger all cablemodems available through the channel.. adsl though, usb is super ghey.. noone should be subjected to that
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 12:57
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coFF33 wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 15:46 | Consider Windows2000 ?!
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Ohhhhh you meen the one microsoft has officaly stoped supporting?
Get xp on a nice new drive, get VET and spybot search & destroy, ALL the windows updates, and dont install anything you didnt pay for you should be ok online
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 13:15
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If you using windows first edition then forget using a usb modem.
Windows 2000 and XP are ideal. Go the second option without a doubt
Also use ethernet when possible. Dont have a ethernet card, shell out $20 and buy one, USB modems such.
Get a modem that has a PPPoE client in the firmware and make sure its one your provider supports.
For ease of trouble shooting modems with 4 lights: power, adsl, status, usb/ethernet make troubleshoot much easier
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Wed, 20 July 2005 13:16
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hamgatan wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 18:18 | oh cable..thats different. you dont really get much of a choice there and theres bugger all cablemodems available through the channel.. adsl though, usb is super ghey.. noone should be subjected to that
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microsoft still support 2000. they recently stopped supporting NT recently, do you have it confused with that.
they may have stopped supporting win 98 aswell but unsure on this
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: July 2004
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Location: Land of Oz
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 11:04
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Hi,
Well I'm running on XP now. I bought an 80M HDD and XP Home edition and loaded it, and here I am. I'll connect the old win98 HDD as the slave drive tomorrow.
Gee, this XP is very pretty isn't it? I'll soon see if it's better than Win98 or just bling and rice.
Thanks for your help.
seeyuzz
river
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 11:26
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coFF33 wrote on Wed, 20 July 2005 13:46 | XP PRO (coz home is useless)
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Pssht, because most people use the features that set them apart
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 11:27
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river wrote on Thu, 21 July 2005 19:04 | I'll soon see if it's better than Win98 or just bling and rice.
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Both.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2003
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 11:30
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3rd choice
dual boot
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Location: Land of Oz
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 12:04
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Hi,
Yes, dual-boot. I can then run OS/2!!!!
In regards to XP Pro.... I saw the price and thought it a little too steep for what it offers, especially for a single old PC that ostensibly will be running low-end games and net browsing.
If I want to get serious I'll use DOS6.22
seeyuzz
river
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Location: Forster NSW
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 12:32
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There's no need to pay extra for a feature that you're not going to use, either.
Wise choice.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 13:43
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shit i just remembered something..
river ol fella, you picked up a job as IT manager for the SA police yeah? i forgot to mention.. they have a all of government Enterprise Agreement in place there whereby you can commission work at home rights on the Desktop Lic/SA Pack..
meaning you can take ths software home and use it for free for the duration of your employment there.. oh and get upgrades when they come along as well..
so yeah, dont be buying your software when you can have it legal and free that way..
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I supported Toymods
Location: Brisbane
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 14:37
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Is there a version of Workbench that'll run on my p4 3.0 ?
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: July 2004
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I supported Toymods
Location: Brisbane
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 15:00
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It's still around on my Amiga 500 , despite the fact all my discs dont' work anymore
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Location: Forster NSW
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 22:45
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hamgatan wrote on Thu, 21 July 2005 23:43 | shit i just remembered something..
river ol fella, you picked up a job as IT manager for the SA police yeah? i forgot to mention.. they have a all of government Enterprise Agreement in place there whereby you can commission work at home rights on the Desktop Lic/SA Pack..
meaning you can take ths software home and use it for free for the duration of your employment there.. oh and get upgrades when they come along as well..
so yeah, dont be buying your software when you can have it legal and free that way..
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He was joking with the police bit.
But that government enterprise agreement helps me sleep easier at night.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 23:18
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Workbench 3.5 is out and 4.0 is under devlopment get with the times peoples
and an A500 was a toy, real men had an A3000 or better
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Toymods Vice President
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 23:45
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As to the question of support Windows 98 and Windows 2000 SP4 are both in extended support meaning that there is still support available for them. There is however no free support available for them other than hotfixes.
How could you claim there is no 2000 support when a security roll-up containing 514 hotfixes was released just this month?
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Thu, 21 July 2005 23:53
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2000 IS DEAD! XP is the current mainstream until longfloppy gets viagra! get over it! no one in there right mind would prefer to install windows 2000 over XP on a fresh system today unless it was a SOE requirement
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: July 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Fri, 22 July 2005 00:36
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hotfixes is hardly what i would call support.
they only do the hotfixes because some of the biggest EAs/Select Agreements in place are all still utilising W2K environments due to partly retentive directors who do not understand technology and wont authorise the rubber stamp on IT funding to do the migrations. ms are still supporting the hotfixes because they dont want their big enterprise customers jumping over to novell. its as simple as that..
but yes Josh youre right in the hotfix and extended support part..
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/server/evalua tion/news/bulletins/extendedsupport.asp
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Toymods Vice President
Location: Sydney
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Fri, 22 July 2005 00:48
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Of course XP is the current main stream OS. Nobody said it wasn't, and I sure didn't recomend using 2000 instead of XP. All I did was correct the misinformation you had claimed in the thread.
Sorry if that touched a nerve.
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Location: Central Coast, NSW
Registered: February 2005
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Location: Land of Oz
Registered: June 2004
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Sun, 24 July 2005 10:59
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Hi,
All done and the PC is running better under XP than it did with Win98.
I imported all the favourites, address books and messages. It's marvellous when technology actually works (which isn't as often as I would like).
Thanks for your replies and help. I got the old Win98 drive as my 2nd HDD and can slowly move over stuff I want and then maybe format it. I might put the swapfile on the 2nd HDD for a slight improvement in performance.
seeyuzz
river
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Registered: June 2003
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Re: Win98 to XP Question
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Sun, 24 July 2005 11:03
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You may want to leave the swap file on the newer HDD, as it almost certainly has better seek times, larger pipe & larger cache.
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