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race4ages
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wiring question regarding efi relays Fri, 22 July 2005 05:09 Go to next message
i think im on the brink of finishing my 4age (from aw11 mr2) into a toyota sprinter

however i have a problem..i turn the key the engine cranks but doesnt fire. i believe the problem is there is no fuel getting to the engine.(beacuse the relays are not wired in)

i think my problem is that because the aw11 loom has a N1 connector (connects the body loom to the engine loom ) that has a pin for the engine relay and efi relay , where as the sprinter has a different loom set up.

the question i ask (providing what i said above is true and makes sense) is how and where do i wire the the n1 connector wire to the sprinter relays..

there are two relays>> one in the engine bay fuse box and one behind the drivers kick panel . i believe them to both be "M4 relays"

can any body out there shed some light on this problem??
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Re: wiring question regarding efi relays Fri, 22 July 2005 05:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
http://www.mr2mk1club.com/turbo_files/turbo120.jpg

http://www.mr2mk1club.com/turbo_files/turbo121.jpg

here is a picture of what the n1 connector looks like..the pinouts are 7 and 12...also as the connector has been chopped off mine can someone tell me what colour the wires are for 7 and 12??

thanks in advance
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Re: wiring question regarding efi relays Fri, 22 July 2005 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
4age uses a circuit open relay for the fuel pump. have you wired this up?
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Re: wiring question regarding efi relays Fri, 22 July 2005 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
sounds to me like someone (again Rolling Eyes ) is trying to do a "plug and play" wiring job......

dude you need to WIRE up the car, not just plug things together.

This means you need to ensure your "EFI Main" relay and circuit is operational and connected, and likewise your "Circuit Openning Relay" and circuit.... EFI Main is usually in the fuse/relay box in the engine bay, and C.O.R. is usually mounted ON or VERY near to the ECU.
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Re: wiring question regarding efi relays Sat, 23 July 2005 01:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok yes i wired in the circuit opening relay..

the reason i ask these questions is that the engine loom on the 4age im using has a N1 connector that has been chopped off. I need to know what colour these are and where i can actually them wire into..
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Re: wiring question regarding efi relays Sat, 23 July 2005 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The N1 connector isn't going to worry you being chopped off, as only an AW11 has the other side of it.
What you do have to worry about is merging the two looms (the one in your car currently and the aw11 one) so you can utilise your old fusebox and relays.

I've scanned some images out of my aw11 wiring manual which will probably be invaluable to you if you haven't already got them. As you can see on the last few 'wiring diagrams', places marked -N1- is where it passed through the N1 connector (and it will have the pin number next to it).


http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///routing.jpg http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///harness_joining.jpg http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///positions1.jpg http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///positions2.jpg


http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///charging.jpg http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///power_source.jpg


http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///connectors.jpg http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///wiring1.jpg http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///wiring2.jpg http://mr2.scattered.com.au/image.php/nooverlay/1/size/150/image/4age_wiring///wiring3.jpg
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Re: wiring question regarding efi relays Sat, 23 July 2005 06:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thanks dave i think thats exactly what i needed!!!

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Re: wiring question regarding efi relays Sat, 23 July 2005 06:10 Go to previous message
No probs, good luck with it man!

Also: in the picture 'positions2.jpg' you can see there is two connectors down in the bottom right hand corner. These are for my spoiler brake light and the fan ecu (which I still have attached to my car).
If you don't end up using these connectors, can you cut them off and send them back, I'll pay of course (not too fussed with the small stop light one as I can substitute a small jaycar one, but the fan ecu is useless without the other connector.)

Cheers,
Dave

[Updated on: Sat, 23 July 2005 06:18]

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