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Forrestdale W.A.
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October 2004
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ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 01:25
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Can someone help me identify the difference between the narrow and wide bodied cars please. Are the front guards any different and how can I tell?
Much appreciated
Mark
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Location:
sydney,nsw.oz.
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July 2002
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 01:36
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Me thinks its only the rear guards that are flaired (wider)
Its only grey imports (2nd hand Jap import) that are narrow bodied.
Then again I could be wrong  
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Location:
Forrestdale W.A.
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October 2004
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 02:01
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I have the front guards from a JDM GT4, these are the wide body type?
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2004
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Location:
Newcastle
Registered:
August 2003
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 02:48
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I was under the impression that the ST184, non GT4 was narrow, and the ST185 GT4 was wide, like a GTS skyline vs GTR.
So in the ST185 GT4, there was a narrow and wide?!?! Can a Celica yoda confirm this and maybe even pics?
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Location:
Brisbane
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May 2004
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 02:50
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In Australia...you are correct...184 was narrow, and 185 was wide. But these questions were about JDM GT4's...which were both.
I'm no yoda, but can confirm that.
M
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Location:
Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 02:59
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Widebody is always a better bet anyway - least you know its an australian delivered , or a Group A ( or RC or calros sainz )
better turbos in these for starters , then ceramic powahs jobbies that come on the JDM yo models ..
disadvantages - widebody is a bit heavier - harder to fine panels for
Widebody looks SO much cooler with nice rims too  Factory flares
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Location:
Adelaide, South Australia
Registered:
March 2005
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 04:22
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I'll see If I can get a photo of BeeJ's CS GT4 next to my JDM Narrow body.
there's a fair amount of difference in the shape of the guards.
+the narrow bodies come standard with 14" wheels 
Jordan
P.S: leave my cermaic turbine wheel alone
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
December 2002
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 04:55
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The JDM Narrow body cars were ST185R model code and the wide body were ST185H model code.
This only applies to JDM cars AFAIK.
If you see a narrow and widebody ST185 together you will see the difference quite quickly, the difference is especially noticable at the rear.
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Newcastle
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August 2003
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Thu, 28 July 2005 15:06
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Ah very interesting....
So in Australia the narrow bodied imports would be rarer so the price tage would be higher? Hmmm funny thought...
No such thing applied to the 205 right?
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I Supported Toymods
Location:
Sydney
Registered:
December 2002
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Sat, 30 July 2005 03:56
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You will find it is the other way around...
narrow body = import = cheaper.
wide body = price based on aus delivered prices.
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
December 2002
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Sat, 30 July 2005 06:44
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Here's a question for the trainspotters amongst us: What month and year did JDM ST185's go to widebody based production, and how can you tell what month and year a JDM ST185 is produced in?
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Location:
Adelaide
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April 2004
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Sat, 30 July 2005 08:57
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| CLG wrote on Sat, 30 July 2005 16:14 |
Here's a question for the trainspotters amongst us: What month and year did JDM ST185's go to widebody based production, and how can you tell what month and year a JDM ST185 is produced in?
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did it change in 92/93 (JDM/AUD respectively) when they went from series one tail lights to series 2 tail lights? (ie smoked with border vs non smoked & non border) and the other changes?
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
December 2002
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Sat, 30 July 2005 13:27
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The closest I've come to a differentiation is here:
http://www.allwheelmotion.com/arvinfaq.htm
If you scroll down to overall width in the Dimensions section, you'll see the GT4 with width 1690mm (I assume narrow body?!?) ends production in August, 1991. The wider GT4 at 1745mm (I assume wide body?!?) continues production till August, 1993 - so can we assume all JDM GT4's produced between the dates of 8/91 - 8/93 are actually wide body?!?
Next important question: How do you determine the month and year of production in a JDM vehicle?
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I Supported Toymods
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Sydney
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December 2002
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Sun, 31 July 2005 05:17
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| CLG wrote on Sat, 30 July 2005 23:27 |
Next important question: How do you determine the month and year of production in a JDM vehicle?
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Just punch your VIN into the online EPC... http://japancats.ru/toyota/
Note: You'll probably need to find yourself a Russian proxy server to get it to let you in.
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I supported Toymods
Location:
Perth, Western Australia
Registered:
December 2002
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Re: ST185 Wide vs Narrow body
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Sun, 31 July 2005 11:19
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You lost me on the access part - any help in that area please anyone?
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I supported Toymods
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Perth, Western Australia
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December 2002
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