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4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Sun, 15 December 2002 07:26 Go to next message
I finally dropped my 4AGTE into the car today, it looks way tougher than the 3TGTE that used to live there.......BUT:

the copper head gasket did not seal properly, and has blown between the cylinder & water jacket. Crying or Very Sad

So what head gasket can I use from toyota?
Is the gasket the same for 4AGZE & naturally aspirated 4AGE 16V? I know that the water & oil galleries are the same, but is the compound different?
What are they worth roughly?

oh, and you can check out a couple of pics of the assembled motor at the pages below: Cool

http://www.geocities.com/te72_turbo/4AGTE_turbosid e.html

http://www.geocities.com/te72_turbo/4AGTE_front.ht ml

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Phil

[Updated on: Sun, 15 December 2002 09:50]

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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic) Sun, 15 December 2002 07:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
uploaded pic?

Where???
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic) Sun, 15 December 2002 08:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
me me me

akicon@bigpond.net.au

chuck us

what car is this by the way ???

Ta
Mani

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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic) Sun, 15 December 2002 08:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Love to see some pics: iamfrank@bigpond.net.au
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic) Sun, 15 December 2002 08:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok fellas, i've fixed up the links to the pictures now, so go for it.

But can anyone help with my problem? I need this thing running! I have serious withdrawal symptoms from not driving the car! Mad

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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Sun, 15 December 2002 21:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
*bump*
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Mon, 16 December 2002 00:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
isn't the 4AGTE just a 4AGZE motor minus the supercharger and plus a turbocharger?? If it is, the GZE is a forced induction motor, so why not use the GZE gasket as it should still be the same design, cause its the same motor. Although if your gunna run higher compression, or higher boost, then it might be worth getting a custom one made up.

Dunno really, just what i think. Probly wrong, but hey, at least i've tried!

hint hint to other modders......Thoughts are needed here!!!!

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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Mon, 16 December 2002 00:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Oooh yeah, that looks sweet! Shocked Very Happy
I want more pictures though. NOW!!! Smile

As far as I remember (which isn't a good thing to rely on), the ZE were the same as the GEs, but wait unil someone can confirm that. I remember there was talk of headgaskets with pics of different ones on here recently......
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Mon, 16 December 2002 02:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message


had a friend who always used genuine head gaskets on a turbo gze he had. i recently put one one my GE and looked much better than the first one i fried! Razz

not sure if there diff for GZE and GE.
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Mon, 16 December 2002 12:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OK. Today I got a genuine gasket from toyota, off an AE92 smallport naturally aspirated 4AGE. I bought this because it was already in stock, and all of the oil & water galleries are the same. I cant imagine what would be different with the GZE one, as this one looks to be of high quality, made of graphite with metal inserts around the cylinders, and another type of metal coating on the head side over almost the complete gasket surface.

Its back together and running now (as of 30 minutes ago)and is just waiting for a hydraulic clutch line before it gets boosted on the road Very Happy

I'll have to take some pics of it in the engine bay.

Thanks all

Phil

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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Mon, 16 December 2002 16:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
geez.. that engine looks so beautiful, never seen a clean engine before! Razz

How much money did it cost to built one of those? how much would it take to drop one of these into an ae86? :PPP More than a 20v??
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Tue, 17 December 2002 11:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Shazzzzzam.....

It looks fuli Sik Phil, I just hope my 4AGE 20v turbo conversion looks that neat.

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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Tue, 17 December 2002 11:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Thanks for the compliments!

As for cost, I couldn't accurately figure it out to tell you, as I used a heap of parts from my previous 3TGTE, such as injectors, turbo, computer, intercooler. What I can say is that you should budget 50% more than you think it will cost you! Smile There's many seemingly small things along the way that take up extra cash pretty fast, such as fittings for oil feed to the turbo, RWD gearbox stays, appropriate bellhousing & slave cylinder, etc. etc.

I bought the motor for $400 minus supercharger, the RWD bigport head & manifold for $250, and the AE71 gearbox & starter motor for $240. so the basics were quite cheap I think.

Phil

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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Tue, 17 December 2002 13:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nice work....let us know how it goes....need some inspiration
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Tue, 17 December 2002 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Looks awesome
I would love to drop it into my AW11
ooh yeah... Evil or Very Mad
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Tue, 17 December 2002 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
FWIW, I got a genuine ZE headgasket from Toyota when I built mine, but, it sounds very similar to what you've got.
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Tue, 17 December 2002 22:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
old_mr2 wrote on Wed, 18 December 2002 01:08

Looks awesome
I would love to drop it into my AW11
ooh yeah... Evil or Very Mad



yeah I want one for the sprinter too! Laughing
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Wed, 18 December 2002 02:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
The gaskets are pretty much the same.
Have a look at this thread, it has the two gaskets pictured.
http://www.toymods.org.au/msgboard/index.php?t=msg &th=7219&rid=1488&S=786338ea42c271e5c0 56bdd83b09df77
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Re: 4AGTE Lives !.........but help! (pic now attached) Thu, 19 December 2002 12:20 Go to previous message
Looks sweet man Smile Let us know how it all goes.
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