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1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Sun, 31 July 2005 05:49

ive found an ecu as well if anyone needs to know [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Sun, 31 July 2005 07:25

so you have the engine as well? if so PICS!!!!!!!!!! [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Sun, 31 July 2005 07:27

yes really, detailed info and pics of everything you're doing! [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Sun, 31 July 2005 10:02

WTF? Is your username for real, ie you're putting a V12 in a 300ZX? If so, BASTARD! [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Sun, 31 July 2005 10:13

and if so how the hell is it gonna fit? the VG30 is a tight fit [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Sun, 31 July 2005 10:48

indeed, it is a v6, not a straight 6! EDIT: The nissan engine that is. [Updated on: Sun, 31 July 2005 10:49] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 07:08

Heh i thought this thread was gonna be about someone bolting a 1GFE head onto a 1GGZE [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Mon, 01 August 2005 07:42

dayzii wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 17:08

Heh i thought this thread was gonna be about someone bolting a 1GFE head onto a 1GGZE Confused

they are talking about a 1GZ-FE. they are a 5 litre V12 toyota engine.

pretty rare too

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 13:20

I call shenannigans. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 14:05

kicks Norbie [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 18:40

Nah. A 1GZFE ECU has been available on Yahoo Auctions Japan for the last 6 months or so. Just no motor. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 21:53

grabs broom SHENANNIGANS!!! would probably be cheaper to buy a smashed century at the current rate..... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 22:01

so who has pics of a 1GZ? hmmmmmmm? come on people [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 22:21

pouts I want one as well. Got the workshop manual for one, just the actual thing to practice on. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 23:00

I have pics of the 1GZ I was going to buy a couple of years ago (sigh). I'll post them tonight if I remember. Bill: wanna go halves in a smashed Century? I have some very interesting ideas for one of these things. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Mon, 01 August 2005 23:08

well, i haven't seen any driving around here.. and none of the 10 or so toyota showrooms i went to have one either... if i do see one, i'll _try_ and ask for pics chances of finding one in a wrecker are virtually nil. (but of course you knew that anyway) (edit: i did get a price sheet tho.. no glossy brochures unfortunately) [Updated on: Mon, 01 August 2005 23:11] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Mon, 01 August 2005 23:36

brett_celicacoupe wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 17:42

dayzii wrote on Mon, 01 August 2005 17:08

Heh i thought this thread was gonna be about someone bolting a 1GFE head onto a 1GGZE Confused

they are talking about a 1GZ-FE. they are a 5 litre V12 toyota engine.

pretty rare too

yeah i figured that after i read the thread...

however upon looking at the thread originally I thought it was talking about a supercharged 1G (1G-FZE) and the guy had just made a typo...

Forgot all about the V12 engine! Interesting...

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 00:13

The way it is going I think you'll be waiting another 10 or so years for them to come in under the 15 year import rule oldcorollas: If at all possible can you gather a list of the auction houses that deal in both trade-in type vehicles and damaged vehicles as you come accross them? The one that have a web site... I have found a few but it is hard to search for Japanese sites. Maybe start a thread with that title? For starters http://www.japanusedcar.net/auction/group_list.php ?maker=TOYOTA [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 00:20

how much would people be willing to pay for a complete 1GZFE with auto box, loom and computer? oh yeah...if it were in the country already also [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 00:57

A taster until Norbie gets his pics up. As you can see, front sump, vvti on exhaust cam, FE head, timing chain, long intake runners, poor exhuast manifolds, twin TB's, quite similar setup to 1uz re: accessory mounting [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 01:07

my fav so far (and fairly comprehensive) is http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/goojp/used/maker_se arch_w.cgi?baitai=goo&maker_cd=1010 unfortunately it is in japanese, but it is relatively easy to translate the names of the cars as they are all in Katakana... se ri ka ka ru di na etc.. se n chi yu ri ~ tick the boxes of the cars you want to look at (many have multiple models), then hit the arrow button at bottom of page.. then select the box that ticks all the boxes (is the area) etc etc... this site is more for registered cars/registerable... as for auction houses, it's a bit more tricky as only buyers can buy there, and the lists are not always published on the net... there are massive magazines with cars for sale too. that seems to be a more popular method of selling actually, on goonet there are 134 centuries for sale atm!! here's one most exxy, 170km travelled! this years model.. http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/goojp/used/spread_n _w.cgi?goo_car_id=0110050802B4002929006&areacd =13&maker_cd=1010&car_cd=10101001&PRIC E_SORT=desc&baitai=goo&sort_flag=price_sor t&car_cd_list=10101001&search_type=maker_s earch and the cheapest 28 Man yen (280000yen = about AUD$3500) http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/goojp/used/spread_n _w.cgi?goo_car_id=0150050901F4003745004&areacd =16&maker_cd=1010&car_cd=10101001&bait ai=goo&sort_flag=price_sort&car_cd_list=10 101001&search_type=maker_search [Updated on: Tue, 02 August 2005 01:24] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 01:16

http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/goojp/used/spread_n _w.cgi?goo_car_id=0130050803D1001801016&areacd =15&maker_cd=1010&car_cd=10101001&bait ai=goo&sort_flag=price_sort&car_cd_list=10 101001&search_type=maker_search hmm, heisei 1.... it's heisei 17 now, so this car is at least 15 years old... and about AUD$2500.. and should be fine to import under 15 year rule? oh, it's a 4L.. mm pimpin... http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/goojp/used/spread_n _w.cgi?goo_car_id=0120050802C4001343001&areacd =15&maker_cd=1010&car_cd=10101001&NENS HIKI_SORT=asc&baitai=goo&sort_flag=syear_s ort&car_cd_list=10101001&search_type=maker _search hmm, the 5L started in Heisei 9... start at around $25K, and quickly go up from there.. $30-50K seems a reasonable bracket... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 01:24

If I found one of these i'd have to buy it... it would look nice in the XX [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 01:30

The 5l is the 1GZ-FE This is the cheapest one on there @ 1,890,000JPY (~22,500AUD) http://www.goo-net.com/cgi-bin/goojp/used/spread_n _w.cgi?goo_car_id=0180050901K1000004001&areacd =11&maker_cd=1010&car_cd=10101001&PRIC E_SORT=desc&baitai=goo&sort_flag=price_sor t&car_cd_list=10101001&button_name=all_ite ms&search_type=maker_search [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 01:35

ahh, sorry copied second on list, not first i still think this one is horn [Updated on: Tue, 02 August 2005 01:36] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Tue, 02 August 2005 01:39

MR 1JZ wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 09:50

how much would people be willing to pay for a complete 1GZFE with auto box, loom and computer?

oh yeah...if it were in the country already also Smile

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 01:55

Probably 7-8g... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 02:11

Tree-fiddy? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Tue, 02 August 2005 02:24

Norbie wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 11:41

Tree-fiddy?

im no God damn loch ness monster

Laughing

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 02:26

Front cut.... $10-12,000 Engine package.. $6-9000 Depending on K's as these things seem to rack up huge nubers of K's [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 02:32

It's worth noting the engine I was looking at a couple of years ago sold for ~$1500, including transmission. Sigh. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 02:34

kicks Norbie [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 03:57

kicks Norbie Harder ! The workshop manuals are easier to get than the engines thats for sure, Mines even in English . Last 1GZ-FE Eng package I know of was $5k and is clearing quarantine right now. Not for sale tho [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 05:49

So there is 4 1GZ-FE's in Aust that I am Aware of and nobody wants to hand out some dimensions??? Some bitch slapping needs to be done.... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 06:03

pffft...you and yer bitch slapping [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Tue, 02 August 2005 06:14

MR 1JZ wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 16:03

pffft...you and yer bitch slapping Razz

Just let me check my list.....

Yup you're on it....

I'll be in SA about october in my Aust wide Bitch slap tour.
First stop Bribane.... To kick Norbie.

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Tue, 02 August 2005 09:04

I also know where there is one of these engines , Ill chase it up tommorow and see what he is asking for it [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Tue, 02 August 2005 11:20

i know how to get one of these, but i dont exactly think its going to be cheap!!! (READ: $8-10K+ for landed f/cut)

norbie

Bill: wanna go halves in a smashed Century? I have some very interesting ideas for one of these things

You wouldnt happen to be thinking about my wacky Smoky and the Bandit inspired ideas now would you??? Nor my other wacky idea of a 1gz powered fraiser/clubman.... Razz

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Tue, 02 August 2005 23:28

THE WITZL wrote on Tue, 02 August 2005 21:20

You wouldnt happen to be thinking about my wacky Smoky and the Bandit inspired ideas now would you???

10-4 good buddy!

Actually I'd like to put one of these in a stripped JZA80 shell and build the ultimate NA Mk4 Supra. 600hp should be easy enough. Very Happy

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 01:33

so are the 1GZFE's that much different from the BMW 750/850 5L V12? (apart from the obligatory cabin fires and dual ECU)? cheaper and easier to source methinks.. since they burn up often [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 01:43

Don't these engines have pretty low compression? Which would be tasty for adding some form of forced induction. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Wed, 03 August 2005 01:46

peeack wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 09:43

Don't these engines have pretty low compression? Which would be tasty for adding some form of forced induction.

If you are talking about the 1GZ-FE, then no, its 10.5:1

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 01:49

Hmm.. where the hell did I pick that up then. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Wed, 03 August 2005 01:56

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 11:16

peeack wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 09:43

Don't these engines have pretty low compression? Which would be tasty for adding some form of forced induction.

If you are talking about the 1GZ-FE, then no, its 10.5:1

whack a 2mm copper gasket with o-rings on each bank, then a GT3040 per bank...

mmmmmmm

tasty Smile

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 02:00

BMW = 2 valve per cylinder, SOHC (per bank), some wacky rocker arm valve activation mechanism, 3 ECUs (one per bank and one to oversee the two ECUs). Realy, really, really exxy to rebuild - no readily available non genuine bits for them. That said, I would do one of those up than play with some abortional Jag anchor. Clicky linky. [Updated on: Wed, 03 August 2005 02:02] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Wed, 03 August 2005 02:08

MR 1JZ wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 09:56

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 11:16

peeack wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 09:43

Don't these engines have pretty low compression? Which would be tasty for adding some form of forced induction.

If you are talking about the 1GZ-FE, then no, its 10.5:1

whack a 2mm copper gasket with o-rings on each bank, then a GT3040 per bank...

mmmmmmm

tasty Smile

Or do it properly and put low comp pistons in...

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 02:10

yar, thats one of the links i was thinking of mmm firewall.. good to keep engine safe from cabin i forgot they are relatively low tech well, if someone wants to GIVE me maybe... 60-70grand, i'll bring a century back instead [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Wed, 03 August 2005 02:11

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 11:38

MR 1JZ wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 09:56

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 11:16

peeack wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 09:43

Don't these engines have pretty low compression? Which would be tasty for adding some form of forced induction.

If you are talking about the 1GZ-FE, then no, its 10.5:1

whack a 2mm copper gasket with o-rings on each bank, then a GT3040 per bank...

mmmmmmm

tasty Smile

Or do it properly and put low comp pistons in...

or that...

but custom = big big biiiiig bling

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 02:17

And you expect to walk into Repco and pick up a pair of 2mm copper head gasket to suit a 1GZ-FE ? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 02:35

nope, but ridgecrest make them about $300 for the set i belive [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Wed, 03 August 2005 02:37

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 12:17

And you expect to walk into Repco and pick up a pair of 2mm copper head gasket to suit a 1GZ-FE ?

Not Repco, Supercheap.

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 02:40

As if you'd consider a 1GZ-FE build without having a substantial budget to do it properly. 2mm copper gaskets indeed. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 04:59

<lol @ 2mm copper HG's> Do it the PROPER way.... bolt on the intake volume enhancers and continue to increase intake absolute pressures until such time the engine breaks. Replace said broken bits with BIGGER/BETTER bits and increase intake absolute pressure even MORE. Mr 1JZ - your take on engine builds is interesting... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:22

The engine and accessories i knew about sold for $7k and going into a TORANA [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:25

how much would a set of custom pistons/rods/etc cost for such a motor? the only reason I would do a 1GZFE is if it could be done on the cheap becuase there are no real super advantages to it, except for the fact its rare as fuck, it would sound completely spastic and its a V12... if it were going to cost $25 grand to build as a twin turbo engine reliably id rather do it with a 1UZ....becuase you would end up making the same power, much cheaper.... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:28

Custom pistons are around the $250 each for one offs. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:36

I'm paying US$177 for custom rods... so about $3k for a set of 12. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Wed, 03 August 2005 05:37

well, im just gonna stfu and sit in the corner now.... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!

Wed, 03 August 2005 05:38

CrUZsida wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 15:28

Custom pistons are around the $250 each for one offs.

and rods are similar.. ish?

so $500 per bore x 12 = $6K just for pistons and rods..

think customs 4cyl build then multiply by 3. a V12 is never going to be "cheap" ...

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Re: 1GZFE still needed by people...including me!	Thu, 04 August 2005 13:47

~$26k AUD http://ww.japanusedcar.net/auction/detail.php?id=5 B11503630 [Report message to a moderator]

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