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CamZH
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Koni vs KYB Sun, 15 December 2002 10:57 Go to next message
Hey guys,
looking at re-doing the shocks and springs in Rala's RA28.

Have been quoted about $600 for KYB shocks and Dobinson springs.

But there is a set of king springs and red Koni's for sale in the parts section for $1000 (still boxed)

Sounds expensive to me.
Are the Koni's that much better??


thanks,

CamZH

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Re: Koni vs KYB Sun, 15 December 2002 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Well, the market on Konis locally (cannington) is really big..
and the japanese use Koni too..

Personally i think that the quality is better, but they also respond to any type of layout, whereas others may not respond so well if your car is setup differently.

If you get my meaning.

Personally the Konis would be my opinion..
because no matter how your car is setup they preform very well.. others are more suited to certain setups.

Hope that helps you some.

Katsuchiyo
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Re: Koni vs KYB Sun, 15 December 2002 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
It sounds like you've been talking to whiteline. My brother & I are half way through installing our KYB & dobinson springs/shocks.
Try asking what Whiteline would charge to supply Koni reds for front & back, & ask their opinion (talk to Wojtek [pronounced voytek] if you can). Also a strut brace makes a big difference on old celicas, & they now make one for us (I have one on my car).
In my opinion both would be good, it just depends how much you want to spend. The konis would be better, but you pay for it.
I would recommend spending the money you save with the KYBs on a strut brace & sway bars, or some new nolethane bushes.
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Re: Koni vs KYB Sun, 15 December 2002 15:29 Go to previous message

I have no precise info on KYB's, I just blatantly assume they are not rebuildable.
Most KONI's (not all of them, sadly) are rebuildable. That word also translates to 're-valveable'.

If nature of the car changes in time, new shocks are in order to accommodate making use of newly developed suspension characteristics. In cas of KONI's, have them sent to a shop for re-valve job.

KYB's have come a long way if they too are rebuildable/re-valveable thesedays.


Intended use.
If someone id making a drift-only performance car, the said KONI's are not best possible shocks for that. KONI's hold on to road in every way they can, and that's exactly what one does not want in drifting.
If we're in return making a track racer where no sideways action is sought for, KONI's are valved exactly for this purpose.

Having separate adjustments for both, the bump and rebound would be optimum. There are such shocks out there, but the price shoots up.
Best ones I know of are 4-way adjustable. Two knobs for bump settings, two knobs for rebound. Two knobs are needed since other knob affects slow piston speed control, and the other high piston speed control.
KONI's just have a single adjustment and that only affects rebound control. Bump will remain the same. Some other brands have a single adjustment as well, but that in some cases does change both bump/rebound valving simultaneously.


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