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AE92 coil-overs
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Mon, 01 August 2005 03:23
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I'm looking into getting into a bit of track work (hill climbs and autokhana's most likely i.e. grip racing) with my AE92 and I would like to know what brands of coil-overs people are using and what they have thought of them on this model Corolla.
I was originally thinking of just using Koni sports inserts with heavy duty springs, but this would come close to the cost of coil-overs.
I have found that D2 and the Toda Racing (Fightex FS series) make coil-overs for the AE92. Has anyone used these, and what sort of results are you getting? I'm not really looking to be super competitive and the car will still be a daily driven street car, but I just want some more adjustment so I can set it up for the track, and being able to fit wider rims cause of the smaller diameter springs is never a bad thing.
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Elwood, Melbourne
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May 2005
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Mon, 01 August 2005 12:36
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personally I think you'd be better off with some koni adjusty's, especially if your not looking to be super competitive.
that kinda set-up will cost half as much as a set of D2 or toda coil overs. they retail for almost $3k a set dont they?
if you really want coil overs, just get some threaded inserts welded onto your original casing etc. but that'll cost in labour too
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Tue, 02 August 2005 03:26
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I don't know about 3k for a set of coilovers - I've heard of people getting them for about 1600 delivered, so that's only marginally more then koni sports and springs, but they could be more.
I can get someone that will make me a set of custom coil-overs for about 250 a corner (mates rates), but I'm not too sure about them as he doesn't get them engineered and he cuts the strut.
Might just go with the Koni inserts and live with only having a set height and spring rate.
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Sydney, OZ
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May 2002
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Tue, 02 August 2005 06:18
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I've heard of people getting them for about 1600 delivered,
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2nd hand may be... JIC racing sell some.SSS automotive do get them now and then, and they go for around $1000-1600 depending on condition otherwise it's just the coil over kit. Serious Coil overs start at around the $3k mark, any thing below are no better that just changing your springs and matching them to decent shocks
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Tue, 02 August 2005 07:30
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just get some KYB agx adjustable shocks or the equivalent Koni, and some decent sprinhs to boot, couple that with sway bars front and rear and a front strut brace and it'll be fine. 
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Tue, 02 August 2005 07:48
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questions..
what do you actually want to adjust for the track? will a change in ride height from the street setting make that much difference and can you actually be bothered adjusting it all the time
how wide do you really want/need to go with rubber?
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Elwood, Melbourne
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Tue, 02 August 2005 09:31
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what do you actually want to adjust for the track? will a change in ride height from the street setting make that much difference and can you actually be bothered adjusting it all the time
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this is what I was leaning towards, without so much as saying it.
I have an ae82 fxgt race car in NZ that was extremely competitive in club events with only trd front inserts and lovell springs! - now it has a custom coilover setup with race springs (professionally engineered, not some flashy brand either)and it is going to be a rocket this season.
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Tue, 02 August 2005 22:06
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unless you have gone big on horsepower and spend the money to get the geometery right,you will get more benefit from 2 inch lower springs,competition konis and spend the extra the coilovers would cost you on getting the car setup properly.if you live in the city and use the car as a daily driver,either coilovers or konis, and 2 inch lower springs with the right spring rate for your car,will take a hammering. ive had the tops of koni's come undone because of the state of public roads.unless you get alot more power and the car is setup correctly you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between coilovers and a good spring and insert setup.then its a case of needing track tires that you dont want to use on the road as they wear in 3000km.there are a few gometery tricks, to get a FWD to handle well.make sure you have an LSD, otherwise you'll be very slow out of corners.FWD is the worst possible choice for hillclimbs because of weight transfer.but on the track they are great fun,they are sensational under brakes with good pads.
hope this helps.
mick
p.s "professionally engineered, not some flashy brand either". yep ill tell the boys to rip the flashy PENSKE's off the race cars,which a designed by amateurs,and get some new zealand professionally engineered shocks.
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May 2002
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Tue, 02 August 2005 22:27
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I am on the way to the land of the rising sun on friday and AE82/92 coilovers are on the list. I cant make any promises. I have had JIC coilovert that sell from $550 > $750.
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Wed, 03 August 2005 04:47
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Just looking at adjusting the ride height as well as being able to easily find springs of different rates.
Yes I could be bothered changing it all the time but for now I'll just go Koni sports (yellow adjustables) and some lowered springs, along with swaybars, nolathne bushes etc etc
Corona RT142: Why would I want to purchase a front strut brace? maybe a rear but doing the front is pointless when I have one the car standard
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Wed, 03 August 2005 05:38
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lachie thats a good combo.the only other thing that will help the setup is a set of eleptical camber bolts and offset caster bushes for the front from whiteline.a good setup is 2-3deg neg camber front and the caster is set by you bushes. rear camber you dont need much until you get plenty of front grip.a bit of toe out on rear will help turn in.
mick
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Wed, 03 August 2005 10:14
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p.s "professionally engineered, not some flashy brand either". yep ill tell the boys to rip the flashy PENSKE's off the race cars,which a designed by amateurs,and get some new zealand professionally engineered shocks.
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 OK OK smart ass!
not quite what It sounds like- my bad. what I meant was that they were proffesionally engineered, not some backyard welding/fitting job. and yet we didnt have to spend the money associated with Toda or the like.
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Wed, 03 August 2005 10:30
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lol no prob! i was joking, i new what you ment.
mick
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Wed, 03 August 2005 10:56
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I am on the way to the land of the rising sun on friday and AE82/92 coilovers are on the list. I cant make any promises. I have had JIC coilovert that sell from $550 > $750.
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Andrew, whereabouts are you heading to? not going to make it up to Hokkaido by any chance?
Cya, Stewart
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Thu, 04 August 2005 04:35
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| kingmick wrote on Wed, 03 August 2005 15:08 |
lachie thats a good combo.the only other thing that will help the setup is a set of eleptical camber bolts and offset caster bushes for the front from whiteline.a good setup is 2-3deg neg camber front and the caster is set by you bushes. rear camber you dont need much until you get plenty of front grip.a bit of toe out on rear will help turn in.
mick
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Yep, thats what the etc etc was 
Why 2-3 deg's camber on the front? That seems like heaps and the most you can get from whitelines camber bolts is 1.5 degrees which I feel would be more then enough
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Thu, 04 August 2005 09:02
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2 deg is what i used as the minimum on the track with my rolla.
there is so much push in a fwd that you need the camber on mid and exit.the prob you find is it will tram track on the street and scrub the inside.i just set camber before going to the track and after i have finished.get friendly with a good aligner and you will find they will do it for bugger all for you.
mick
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Fri, 05 August 2005 01:35
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How did you get that much camber?
I'm guessing you had to use two camber bolts per corner?
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Hobart, Tas
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May 2002
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Re: AE92 coil-overs
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Fri, 05 August 2005 05:21
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Lachie, someone is selling a set of ae92 coilovers in the suspension section 
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