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adamaw11
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cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 04:00 Go to next message
Just wondering where people have gotten cable from, for use when relocating the battery.

Are there any particular specs necessary to look for? Current load ratings etc?

I've heard of people using "welding cable". Where would one be able to acquire this?

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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 04:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I got mine from an electrical wholesaler. I just grabbed the thickest stuff they had in stock, which as it turns out is about twice as thick as I really need, but at least I don't have to worry about voltage drop. Laughing
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Amplifier cable is idea -- but bloody expensive... look around 2 awg (hypo cars) or 4awg (for a normal car), the more copper strands in the cable itself the better.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 04:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Cool, thanks for the info.

Which electrical wholesaler did you go to Norbie?

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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 05:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Can't remember (it was ages ago) but they were in Archerfield.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BOC for welding cavle for me Smile
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 05:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Any welding supply shop will have a wide selection of big cables at a fairly good price. Have you got a local BOC?
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 05:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Welding cable will have a greater volt drop than proper power cable.

I'd used 4gauge as minimum, 2guage if you can.

That said I had 4guage for my 1UZ Cressida, and it was fine.
It was a 550cca battery, and I had earths coming out the wahzoo.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ok, I found that the "BOC" website has an outlet locator. I'll try some of their local outlets.

smallest "welding flex" on the BOC site is 16mm, even that would seem like a pretty thick diameter. I guess I'll see whats there when I find an outlet.

cheers.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 06:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
as has been said welding shops... buy the earth lead stuff... mine cost like 23 dollars for 5 metres... and they crimp things on for like 1 dollar haha
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
CrUZsida wrote on Thu, 04 August 2005 15:12

Welding cable will have a greater volt drop than proper power cable.

I'd used 4gauge as minimum, 2guage if you can.

That said I had 4guage for my 1UZ Cressida, and it was fine.
It was a 550cca battery, and I had earths coming out the wahzoo.


the problem is they have a low copper strand count Sad
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
terra wrote on Thu, 04 August 2005 15:17

the problem is they have a low copper strand count Sad

Which leads to greater resistance, which inturn leads to greater volt drop.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 07:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
low copper strand count? Fuck me, my double insultated welding cable has that many damn strands I keep pricking myself whenever I touch the stuff. Plus the guy put the fittings on it for free for me and even let me borrow the tool to take home and crimp myself.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yep welding cable is the go. not only does it have a shitload of tiny copper wires despite what some people are saying, it also has double insulation. well thats how mine is anyway, i bought it from BOC in minto.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Welding cable here - big thick bastard with millions of fine copper wire core - $ 9 per meter here a bit dearer for the country i guess

So far so good - excellent to work with and very satisfying results
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 10:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
went to an auto elec and used a 4gauge proper battery cable
works like a charm
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 13:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
some welding wire is fukt

it looks thickfrom outside but inside its half the size

it has 2 insulating layers and fuk all wire

i always keep the thickest in stock

its not very flexible but its the best

amp wire is ok but not the best its good that its flexible

the stuff i have is like 8 to 10 bucks a metre
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 14:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
everyone seems to have an opinion on what works... anyone got something that hasn't worked out quite so well? voltage drop this voltage drop that... what hasn't worked in what with what engine and what battery (cca)??

cheers
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Not having a good enough earth from battery to body in the boot, and from the block to the body up the front, will result in poor performance.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Thu, 04 August 2005 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
don't go any of these pissy-arse measures.

0ga from +ve to engine bay, 00ga for an earth cable Smile (actually, that's totally overkill on my part)

seriously, any electrical wholesaler should have 2ga cable and appropriate fittings (and fuses - FUSE IT CLOSE TO THE BATTERY!). just measure up what you need, add a bit, then go to them and get it done.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Fri, 05 August 2005 01:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I dropped into Jaycar since I was going past, and found they have 2g for $13 a metre, and 4g for $6 per metre.

I'll try BOC when I get the chance. I think I'll go with the welding cable - sounds like it'l be cheaper and tougher. The 4g I saw seemed a little thin.

thanks for the reminder to use a fuse too. But, um if my odyssey battery says it has 680 CCA whats the lowest rated fuse that could be used?
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Re: cable for battery relocation Fri, 05 August 2005 01:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i just used a dirty big car stereo fuse this isnt ur run of the mill fuse though lol i did a practice on it ran the lead to the car took about 3 seconds to pop lol and thats a 600cca battery
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Re: cable for battery relocation Fri, 05 August 2005 02:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I used 2 gauge wire.

how big a fuse do people recommend?
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Re: cable for battery relocation Fri, 05 August 2005 02:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Get a circuit breaker, much better than a fuse. I think mine is a 150A unit.
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Re: cable for battery relocation Fri, 05 August 2005 02:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
circuit breaker is indeed better.. depends on how often you plan to accidentally ground your main power cable Smile

somewhere in the range of 150-250A
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Re: cable for battery relocation Fri, 05 August 2005 03:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
draven wrote on Fri, 05 August 2005 12:12

circuit breaker is indeed better.. depends on how often you plan to accidentally ground your main power cable Smile

I did it once, but unfortunately it was the short length of cable between the battery and the circuit breaker. It was like a fireworks show in the back of my car. Scared the living crap out of me! Shocked
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Re: cable for battery relocation Fri, 05 August 2005 09:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I use the welding stuff from my local tool shop - $3/metre, plenty heavy enough, double insulated, and heaps of strands. Even with very long runs, and heaps of cranking over grumpy engines, it doesn't get hot. Plus it looks dead sexy in orange, too Razz
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adamaw11
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Re: cable for battery relocation Sun, 07 August 2005 03:07 Go to previous message
I got my cable from BOC. Its the 25mm stuff. The guy said it was rated at 200amps. Now I gotta get on with routing it through the car.
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