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 Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 05:23
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Hey Guys,
How do I go about getting some second hand rims for the silly car ? I want more grip i.e. wider and bigger... say 16's or 17's
Would I be looking to get 17x7 or 17x7.5..... and in 16's too, what would I be looking to get... I might prefer 16's as semi slicks would be cheaper in 16's than 17's am I not correct ?
So yeah and can someone explain to me re "spacers" and "offset" ?
I always just thought.. 4 nuts.. buy rims with 4 holes !  
if i am incorrect please explain to me... what size are the celica supra rims ? will they fit ok ? (they otta be bigger than 14's !? haha
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 05:29
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firstly what size wheels does it have currently? as you can legally only go 2 inches higher...
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 05:46
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Les,
Theres not alot of options for the RWD 4 Stud these days. Before you buy any tho take a good read over the Wheel and rim guidleins on the RTA websight. They have quite a few restrictions in terms on increased sizes !
And wheel spacers I beleive are illegal ! 
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 06:02
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Not just any 4 x 114.3 rim will fit. You have to make sure they have correct offset, probably best is to wait till Nark gets back.
His rims are 17 x 7.5 and are the correct offset too. Every year he takes his over the pits (like u all have to...haha) but I think the time before last he swapped his old rims on...and this time...he found someone who would turn a blind eye...
Dont quote me on that, my memory is BAD!
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 06:06
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How the FUCK did u get your post count up so high so quick..... hoor..... 
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 06:06
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Not just any 4 x 114.3 rim will fit. You have to make sure they have correct offset, probably best is to wait till Nark gets back.
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what is this 4x114.3... can u explain budday ?
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 06:07
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Nope, the biggest whore here is mr_messy.
If you go through all my posts they have all been relevant...little Les... 
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 06:08
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Just got ur second post. 4 x 114.4mm is the stud pattern, its the number of stud and the spacing between them 
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 06:10
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His rims are 17 x 7.5 and are the correct offset too. Every year he takes his over the pits (like u all have to...haha) but I think the time before last he swapped his old rims on...and this time...he found someone who would turn a blind eye...
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whaddaya mean man -
u mean take them off and put stockies on right ?
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 06:12
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is it standard or can the spacing vary..... please tell me it does not vary from car to car....... 
i got some chromies that i wouldnt mind chucking on the celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 10:12
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You are such a post h00r!!! Splitting up everything into multiple posts! 
Yeah, dont you guys have to have vehicle inspections every year in NSW? He just drove around with the 17's and then swapped 'em for stockers for the inspection.
As for the spacing, of course there is variation. I think its Corollas? that have 4 x 100mm spacing. The offset would be the bigger problem though.
Anyone correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it that RWD offsets are fairly low, but FWD offsets are fairly high, meaning they push the rim further out? This is why some people use rims with higher offsets to clear the extra width of brake upgrades.
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 10:32
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Les,
Frank is right there are 2 main 4 stud spacings for the bolt pattern.
Offset is your biggest killer. Different cars need a different offset and as your rim width increases the offset you need also changes. You really need to got to somewhere that knows there stuff and have a good chat about what is required.
At 7.5 inches wides Max's rims are probably not legal ! But Damn they look good !
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Tue, 04 June 2002 10:41
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Les,
The RTA web site is here
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/
Do a search for "wheels and tyres" And read the information sheet 09. It outlines all the limitations (And there are 3 main ones)
You fail to meet any of the requirements and not only can your car be defected but you insurance company can void your insurance.
Keep in mind that some tyre and wheel places will have the sale in mind rather than your best interests.
Hope that helps,
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Tue, 04 June 2002 22:59
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SAY IT AGAIN !! im confused..
3 factors...
-4 or 5 bolt - ok i understand this (der!)
-spacing between bolts (understand this too)
-offset - wtf is this can someone explain ?
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 00:28
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Check your mail Les.
Okay, offset is basically the distance from the hub to the inside of the wheel? I dont know if thats right...look at the picture in your mail to make it clearer, I just can't quite explain it because I still dont understand it properly.
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Wed, 05 June 2002 00:31
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And u will be correct nathan !
I just had a look at thr RTA site... and ye, offset is distance of the "hub" to the end of the rim or thereabouts 
thanks man
I think i will give bob jane a call or somethin - maybe they can enlighten me on the subject !
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 00:37
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No probs, was the picture any helpful?
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 02:07
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yeh - the RTA one is similar !
Thanks
so how many different 4 stud patterns are there now??
4x114.3
are there others ?
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Wed, 05 June 2002 02:14
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I know there is 4 x 100mm...I've never heard of others but I've never looked.
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 03:50
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biggest rims you can chuck on the celica legally are 17x8.5s *I THINK* i know 8.5 is the widest you can go, but to get that wide you're gonna need wheel flares (as you can have your wheels poking ouside the body of your car)
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 Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 04:07
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OK just tell me guys.. can I go buy 17" rims from ozzy tyres and whack them on... thats all i am asking.
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 04:16
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Okay, I'll tell you. Legally, probably not, but most of their bigger wheels aren't legal.
Physically, yes. Just make sure you trial fit them before you pay for them. There is no point in buying something later only to find out its gonna screw up!
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 05:28
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BASICALLY, u are tellig me for it to be legal i should get somethig like 16's i dont want to fark up my insurance (altho 3rd part only)..
.... i think i will get 16's afterall.... i should have NO problems with insurance...right ???
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Wed, 05 June 2002 06:33
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I would be careful with wheel size. I have a set of 15x7 which ain't really that large.. But recently got defected for them being .5 inch too wide. If I had 15x6.5 I would have been ok.
So I'm actually going to get rid of these rims and purchase some legal ones to save myself future headaches.
Joel
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 06:46
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6.5" ey... thats for your RA28 though right ? I'd expect it to be a bit wider for the RA65 - WILL check though - thanks !!
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Wed, 05 June 2002 06:47
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Joel, I'm interested if your interested in selling.
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Wed, 05 June 2002 06:49
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I will be in a 1 - 2 months time. Have to decide what new wheels to get and also I might be changing diffs so depending on stud pattern from that etc.. But yeah for the record they are ROH reflex. Good condition, few scratches as they are 3 years old but nothing too serious.
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Wed, 05 June 2002 06:50
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Yeah, I'm more interested just for the fact they fit and the fact they are 15" (cheaper tyres in the right sizes)
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 08:21
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Here in WA you are not supposed to go wider than one inch over standard width wise. And you're not allowed to go a total over 7" unless it came that was from manufacturer. That so sucks.
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:00
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in NSW you cant go more than 2" wider than the largest the car came optioned from the factory with
that means for the RA65, which had a 14x6.5" option (which I have) you should be able to go up to 8.5" (which incidentally wont fit on the car)
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:31
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Was that option avaiulable on the RA60 too? I'm happy with my 6" rims though.
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:33
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I wouldn't be the person to ask ... I'd try max, or one of the other guys who couldn't afford real pop-up headlights 
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:37
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Hey dude, I had no idea what my car looked like before I bought it. I just saw the paper, went cool, Celica, $2200. Then I went to work.
Then my mum and her boyfriend came and picked me up that evening in my car.
Are your wheels 14"??
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:41
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no offense meant, just a bit of friendly rivalry (plus i happen to like the pop-ups)
yeps, my wheels are 14x6.5
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Wed, 05 June 2002 14:31
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I like the pop-ups too. I have the front of an SA63 sitting around the side of my house, waiting for me to fix a small kink in the bonnet and put it on
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Re: Help with rim size etc for celica
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Thu, 06 June 2002 13:32
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I'm happy with my rims but I think MR TA22 is the rim GOD for this week, thats my useless 20 cents worth........
Justin
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