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frenchboy1123
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4agze with sc and turbo setup? Mon, 08 August 2005 01:51 Go to next message
i just bought a 4agze with a t3 turbo but i want to install the sc back on for low rpm power. if anyone knows how to set this up it would be greatly appreciated. peace
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Mon, 08 August 2005 02:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you are talking about using them both search for "Twin Charging" it has been discussed quite a bit
-Calvin Smile
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Mon, 08 August 2005 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ya i am talking about twin charging but i couldn't seem to find a post about it.. but if anyone has any info on twin charging or has some kind of experience with it any help would be great. thnks
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Mon, 08 August 2005 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
the latest issue of zoom has doigrams of how a guy developed a twincharge system for his 13b using a sc14 that would be an awesome thing to do on a 4agze

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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Tue, 09 August 2005 21:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
thnks ill check tht out. but if anyone has any hands on experience and can give me any info it would be great.
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Wed, 10 August 2005 15:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
HKS made a kit to do this if I'm not mistaken...
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Wed, 10 August 2005 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
to be honest, most of the attempts have been pretty bodgy to date.
the transition between SC and turbo have been pretty halfhearted and many ppl opt for having the turbo feed the SC in series..

there are ways to have a nearly perfect progression from SC to turbo, using mechanically controlled TB's, but part throttle and decell will always be tricky things to get right..

and in the end, a new GT series turbo will nearly negate any gains you get from the SC if driven correctly.. (OMG did i just say that?)



basically for a parallel setup you need to
a) throttle the SC input,
b) throttle the turbo output
c) have a means of preventing the turbo pushing back thru the SC
d) and throttle input to the plenum/ITB'S (be a shame not to ITB it with this much effort Wink
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Wed, 10 August 2005 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Lachie wrote on Thu, 11 August 2005 01:39

HKS made a kit to do this if I'm not mistaken...

they did make a kit but they are very rare..

in the end oldcorollas is right the time and expense of getting it right could be spent better in other areas..

But having said that if someone is willing to do it good on em i would love to see the result and the noise would be quite interesting as the whine of the s/c with a nevo pulley and then the noise of the turbo spooling up Evil or Very Mad

[Updated on: Wed, 10 August 2005 22:10]

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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Thu, 11 August 2005 05:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
*edit* oops posted in wrong thread Razz

[Updated on: Thu, 11 August 2005 06:05]

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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Thu, 11 August 2005 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
three words..


twin screw supercharger

get back your bottom end and use half the power of the SC12 up high.

http://www.opcon.se/index.asp?sPage=1&langID=2 &cID=14
http://www.sprintex.com.au/?show=products

[Updated on: Thu, 11 August 2005 06:00]

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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Sun, 14 August 2005 03:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi sorry if im digging up an old thread but i thought i would share this picture with you all as i think it is quite rare. This is the HKS twincharge kit installed. it basically has a manifold and turbo and fed the s/c inlet.

http://geocities.com/perthcrx/twincharger.jpg
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Sun, 14 August 2005 03:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i think lancia where the only people to get this set up spot on
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Sun, 14 August 2005 08:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i still beleive the s/c should feed the turbo if you where to do a twincharger. Smile
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Fr3aK
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Sun, 14 August 2005 09:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Screamin Performance have done this in Wollongong on a Corolla.
Apparently when he floors it, it goes across 3 lanes...

Give 'em a call if you like scaring pedestrians. Laughing

02 4284 6674 ask for Darryl.
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Sun, 14 August 2005 10:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hi,

I asked recently about making a 20v GZE and people laughed and some one sent me this site to check out

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/lane/1231/20-va lve.html

lodgic to me says that the s/c has to pump through the tb but check out this site.

Thanks,

Ty
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oldcorollas
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Re: 4agze with sc and turbo setup? Sun, 14 August 2005 10:24 Go to previous message
i maintain that a parallel setup is the bestest way to go, but the serial turbo into SC can work ok.. but you still have SC losses up high.. which is kinda th whole point of twin.

one day.... i'll put money where my ideas are Razz

oh if anyone has lots of money and wants to put my ideas into practice, Pm me Razz
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