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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Sun, 14 August 2005 08:28
 
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oh we wont 
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Sun, 14 August 2005 22:18
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| Fr3aK wrote on Sun, 14 August 2005 17:04 |
I used 225/50R16 tyres on the front and 205/50R16 tyres on the rear.
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Not a good idea , and probably illegal as well.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 01:37
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Why not a good idea?
I can sort of understand the legality (especially with the spacers).
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 01:57
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| Fr3aK wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 11:07 |
Why not a good idea?
I can sort of understand the legality (especially with the spacers).
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Think about it.
Larger tyres on the front ?
And spacers. 
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 03:24
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Well i justify the front tyre size so to keep my speedo acurate.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 03:32
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Then get tyres that have the correct rolling diameter yet have the same tread width.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 03:40
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Well i knew i'd need 205's on the rear, but the pair i had came for free, so who am i to complain.
So you're saying if i had 205/55 on the back it'd be more legal than the 205/50's?
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 05:22
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Just out of curiousity...I thought the Camry's PCD was 5 x 100...? How would you fit 5 x 114.3 wheels on it...? That's really weird...but...yeah...well done...but I was REALLY sure the Camry's PCD was 5 x 100...maybe I'm wrong...? Anyway...thanks.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 05:24
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| Fr3aK wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 11:40 |
So you're saying if i had 205/55 on the back it'd be more legal than the 205/50's?
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I have no idea what your tyre size is. All I mean is I don't know why you didn't just go 205 all around.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 06:24
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My vienta PCD is 5x114.3. Don't worry i won't copy you, i got my eye on some 17's for mine. Does look good with the Zed rims.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 06:49
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My variant of Camry (Touring Vienta as it would seem) is 5x114.3 PCD, so the Zed rims go straight on.
I chose 225's on the front because 1st gear is useless with anything skinnier (and they have the correct rolling diameter). I ended up with the 205's on the rear because they were free. Otherwise i would've fitted 225's to the rear too, but then would've needed a bigger spacer and rolled gaurds.
Normally i am the sort of person who gets the same tyres all round... like i mentioned originally, fitting these wheels was a curiosity/ experiment more than anything.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 07:55
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why is 1st gear useless what have you done to the car to make first gear useless
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 08:50
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I had 18x8 wheels on my Vienta back in the day... 235/40/18 fit perfectly. +44mm offset. Never scrubbed. Speedo stayed correct too.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 10:25
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Wollongong ay? Would i have seen your Soarer around? Is it the one in Coniston? I remember you saying you had new swaybars too. Where did you get those made?
Anyway, most 18" rims are a bit too 'full sik' for me... but it's cool to know they fit (how hot are R34 GT-R rims... only an extra inch away). Maybe that'd be my next experiment... anyone got flares for a Camry? 
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why is 1st gear useless what have you done to the car to make first gear useless
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Well you can't give it full throttle otherwise it just wheel spins. With 225's i have half a chance. That was with stock 205's aswell. Can't imagine it now with extractors and intake mods.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 11:01
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How sick was Craig's camry ? That was always a great sight, seeing that thing gliding around Newy.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Mon, 15 August 2005 11:21
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300ZX rims are cheap. I think i only paid $200 for mine.
I was going to the Cruise at Kiama but got sidetracked somehow... would've been me and my GF's KE70. I guess i'm up for another localish cruise.
Actually i'm more of a fan of track days, someone hire Wakefield for the day.
Turbo front wheel drives are cool too, but a 4WD Camry would be cooler (with R34 GT-R rims).
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:52
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Whoa! They have Camry cruises now? 
Remind me to buy a rice muffler so i fit in. 
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 01:56
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| berad wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 17:55 |
why is 1st gear useless what have you done to the car to make first gear useless
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don't know what the widebody's are like but with the 205/60/16 michelin on our 2002 camry touring you can not launch the car cleanly, too high a launch it just spins them instantly , lower launch then full throttle sees you away cleanly until around 30kmph or 4krpm then it spins like buggery. 
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:29
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They made 'Touring' variants in 2002?
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:40
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Ahhh, i see. Cool. Very nice specimen.
Bring it to Wakefield and race me.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 02:45
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Um i doubt it considering its the property of my mum and dad, i learnt to drive in it and drive it occasionally  . Very comfy ride decent speed but lacks feedback.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 04:05
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Then i see no other choice. The corona (ow my eye hurts) must defend the parents' Camry honor.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 08:11
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so let me just clarify something...
camry vientas have 5x114.3 stud pattern but thier lower spec models have 5x100? or is it the updated model that has 5x100?
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 08:12
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the usa got wheels very very very similar to that for their gen3 xle's
just wondering about the legality thing... im pretty sure spacers are illegal
but theres nothing wrong with wider tyres on the front of a street driven fwd -- more traction. some autocrossers even go a smaller rear wheel diameter to keep weight down.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 08:20
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Widebody Camry and onwards are 5x114.3 PCD.
Before widebodys (1992) you had 5x100 and 4 stud (really old Camry's)
Yes spacers are illegal unless you get them engineered, which i have.
Cool, i drive past your car everyday.
18's ay? Send me some pics via PM. I don't think i'd buy them but i'd like a look.
Thanks mate.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 08:23
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 11:26 |
| berad wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 17:55 |
why is 1st gear useless what have you done to the car to make first gear useless
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don't know what the widebody's are like but with the 205/60/16 michelin on our 2002 camry touring you can not launch the car cleanly, too high a launch it just spins them instantly , lower launch then full throttle sees you away cleanly until around 30kmph or 4krpm then it spins like buggery.
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if your camry is v6 i have a $5 mod that will smooth out the power surge at 4000rpm and give you better power from 2000-4000  essentially move the surge to 2000rpm
the reason you get that is theres an achoustic sound killing system in the intake but it robs power, we get it to open on throttle vacuum instead of the vsv activated can and you get more power earlier and no more big surge at 4000rpm
pm me. or if ya know ya way around the ingine
on the left side of the intake plenum is an actuator, unplug its vacuum line, block it with a scew, then run a new line and tee into one of the 2 rear facing lines on top of the TB.
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Tue, 16 August 2005 11:08
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How'd you figure this out mate?
So it kills top end power and boost low down power.
Dyno tested this?
What diameter piping and plug did you use?
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 13:04
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it does nothing to top end power. all it does is give you back low end that is taken away by the ACIS. if you run an open pod filter youll also notice now that it growls from low, not just 4k anymore.
i used 3mm vacuum hose.
the plug is a small screw i found, just plugged up the end.
the "T" connector i got from autobarn for $3 or something.
no need to dyno a $5 mod.
im SURE you notice the extra power surge at 4000rpm -- thats the ACIS actuator activating. were making it activate earlier with this mod.
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do you have an SAFC or other fuell controller? if not, you cna get FREE air/fuel ratio tweaking with our AFM
this applies to ALL TOYOTA with FLAP ATYLE afms (7m supras, old yota trucks, old v6 camrys etc)
on top of ya afm is a black plastic lid sealed with silicon. cut hte silicon and open her up, inside youll see a cog wheel. this is the tension adjustment for the flap.
spin it clockwise to INCREASE AIR RATIO (good for our standard TOO RICH mixtures)
spin it anti clockwise to INCREASE FUEL RATIO
1 click (of a cog) is approximateley not much at all. i have mine set forward clockwise 8 clicks.
this gets it a bit closer to stoich, youll notice much better response between 3000-5000rpm.
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Tue, 16 August 2005 23:11
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So no matter what way you spin it, it increases the ratios. Did you mean to say:
"spin it anti clockwise to DECREASE FUEL RATIO"
I have heard of this method before. Are you sure you don't want to dyno your car?
Also, i'll give the vacuum hose trick a go. Ley you know tonight how i went.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 23:20
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are you referring only to the 3vzfe motor, as mine is the 1mzfe and i can't be bothered fiddling with it as i don't drive it a lot as its my parents car.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - How to, Specs, Pics
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Tue, 16 August 2005 23:27
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Yes Jonno, look at Mummies car and i think you'll have trouble finding the MAF...
The 'hose trick' should be the same though. Might be worth your while.
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Wed, 17 August 2005 01:13
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Ok,
I just did the 'hose trick'.
Absolutely increases low down power (i literally grinned), but kills top end.
Gonna pull apart the arm inside the manifold and see what i can see.
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - And other cheap V6 mods
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Wed, 17 August 2005 02:04
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| Fr3aK wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 10:43 |
Ok,
I just did the 'hose trick'.
Absolutely increases low down power (i literally grinned), but kills top end.
Gonna pull apart the arm inside the manifold and see what i can see.
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it SHOULD NOT kill top end, tehres no difference in the top, all thats happenign is that theres no more surage at 4k becaus its already on
1mz-fe: cannot do a/f trick
a/f trick: also works on the 7M-series engines, we use the same afm, the 3vze uses a smaller variant (its a good swap ifyou have the small oen actually)
a/f trick: clockwide makes it leaner, anti clockwise makes it richer (it as in the engine), youll want to click clockwise -- toyota usually run too rich. go 2 at a time, pulling the efi fuse to reset the ecu (30 seconds enough to clear out capacitors)
while ya at it, get some pantyhose/stockings and slip it inline on the 2 PCV hoses to stop oil blow back -- it wont melt or burn, itll stop oil going into the intake but keep teh pcv working.
the front bank is right there, the rear bank, is on the rear balbve cover under where you were working with the ACIS actuator (so the left side, its a small tube that runs into the back of hte plenum)
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Wed, 17 August 2005 07:36
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Ok, i'm getting different results now. It just feels shit all round.
Have i plumbed it in wrong?
I went from the actuator to the TB, and just plugged the old vacuum line shut.
Is that right?
I also did a test with a cable tie holding the butterfly open. That was great down low, but shit up high.
Can you explain how it works?
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Re: 300ZX Wheels on a Camry - And other cheap V6 mods
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Wed, 17 August 2005 09:48
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| Fr3aK wrote on Wed, 17 August 2005 17:06 |
Ok, i'm getting different results now. It just feels shit all round.
Have i plumbed it in wrong?
I went from the actuator to the TB, and just plugged the old vacuum line shut.
Is that right?
I also did a test with a cable tie holding the butterfly open. That was great down low, but shit up high.
Can you explain how it works?
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the vsv activates at 3800rpm (so its open by 4000rpm which is where you get teh surge) at over 50% TPS. so withthe vacuum tubes stock run WOT it whould be open from 3800 onwards. so it shouldnt make a difference opening earlier.
make sure you do not have another vacuum leak. but yes how you did it is correct. your results varying could maybe be the vacuum line is collapsing under the higher vacuum and making hte actuator go back to its original position. i used automotive vacuum hose from clark rubber and have a spiral wrap over it to avoide crimping under the zip ties and top cover. cheap rubber or silicon hose will collapse under the heat from the engine.
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Wed, 17 August 2005 12:49
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Found the problem. I accidentally crushed the hose with a cable tie 
Conclusion:
Better than stock, so for $5 it's worth it.
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Wed, 17 August 2005 18:58
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a/f mod:
ill take picture for this in the morning if ya need help, but its no ttoo hard... just a knif eto cut the silicon sealant, a texta to mark the original position, a screwdriver to click the cog clockwise and you rbare fingers to reset the efi fuse (its the big fuse box in the engine bay, 15a pull it for 30 seconds after any electical mod) go a click or 2 , reset efi, then go for a spin, if its still good, repeat process till you get knock around the 2500rpm mark (trust me, there is where its gonna start knocking first, this is where the orginal map is at its most lean setting) then back off a couple of clicks.
random picture:
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Wed, 17 August 2005 23:40
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Mines better:
I've thought about doing the A/F mod before, but after fitting the extractors my ratios went (more than) all over the shop.
Big problem is: it starts off lean then goes rich. With tightening the spring, we can only lean the whole sha-bang. Definently something i'd wanna do on a dyno.
Stock (notice the hump @ 4 grand):
With extractors:
This last one is weird. In theory i should be blowing smoke when i drive. I think his dyno A/F ratio meter was broken.
I'll get a dyno run done later on to see what my ratios are doing now.
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Thu, 18 August 2005 04:33
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Yeah i found out the hard way. Not worth the money. You definently need a good tuning after fitting them to make them worthwhile. Lots more torque though.
Anyone want some 3VZ-FE extractors?
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Thu, 18 August 2005 04:53
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| Fr3aK wrote on Thu, 18 August 2005 14:03 |
Yeah i found out the hard way. Not worth the money. You definently need a good tuning after fitting them to make them worthwhile. Lots more torque though.
Anyone want some 3VZ-FE extractors?
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ill buy em afte ri get my SMT-6 ($320 USD for a piggy back ecu wootah - lappy programming, and plenty of use with this on the 3vz already - 8 wire install.)
the reason it went whackis because the orginal o2 sensor read off all 3 primaries combind and now you only get a reading by one primary... maybe.
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Thu, 18 August 2005 10:37
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I don't bother revving mine past 6. Only in drag races.
There's just no more power after 5500.
Where are you dude?
One primary sensor might me screwing it too, but now it feels fine. I'm gonna dyno mine and see what's happening soon.
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