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Location: Wollongong
Registered: January 2005
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microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 12:15
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which management is better for a 2jzgte
Ive been told a haltech and been told a microtech?
Microtechs ive been told are easier to wire up but my mate uses one and want something different
any other managements i should consider
Anyone with prices
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Location: sydney
Registered: March 2003
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 12:17

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haltek bout 1500
motec bout 3500
autronic bout 2000
ems stingerr bout 1100
ems 8600 bout 1500
plus about 600 to wire up plus about 300 to 400 to tune
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I supported Toymods Banned User
Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Mon, 15 August 2005 12:26

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As I said in one of your 5 or 6 other posts:
Neither is better! Any gains will be had in the tuning so the one to choose will depend on who you can get to tune it and what they are used to.
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Location: Perth W.A
Registered: September 2004
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 09:05

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sideshow wrote on Mon, 15 August 2005 20:17 | haltek bout 1500
motec bout 3500
autronic bout 2000
ems stingerr bout 1100
ems 8600 bout 1500
plus about 600 to wire up plus about 300 to 400 to tune
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Damn id like to know where you get your haltec's from
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Location: Perth
Registered: October 2003
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Location: Sydney, OZ
Registered: May 2002
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 11:31

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Quote: | Damn id like to know where you get your haltec's from
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hmm, Haltech in Taren Pt...
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Banned by his request
Location: moved to tamworth
Registered: July 2002
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 11:38

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carby
lol
mick
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 11:44

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I reckon this guy is a troll.
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Location: Sydeny
Registered: August 2005
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 12:31

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Haltech is the way to go!
they are $1300 and will control almost everything.
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Location: Wollongong
Registered: January 2005
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 13:07

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where do you get haltechs for $1300 from turboking i want one thats cheaper than what i got priced after figuring out I was gonna spend $4000 with one place
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Location: Sydeny
Registered: August 2005
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 13:19

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Ok visit, http://www.Tweakit.net
If you go there and get it installed and tuned with them it will be about $1340 for the E6X
Haltech is very good.
(pay cash wink wink)
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 14:04

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TopSecret72 wrote on Tue, 16 August 2005 21:07 | where do you get haltechs for $1300 from turboking i want one thats cheaper than what i got priced after figuring out I was gonna spend $4000 with one place
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Haltech has a cheap entry, and a very expensive topshelf.
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Location: Sydeny
Registered: August 2005
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Tue, 16 August 2005 14:29

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The E6x is very very flexible.
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Location: Osama's hideout
Registered: February 2003
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Wed, 17 August 2005 01:43

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microtech.
all big power 2j's and 1j's in australia are using them with great sucess.
cheaper than the other brands too. no need for CDI either.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: May 2002
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Wed, 17 August 2005 02:05

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If you're building a drag car or a dyno queen a Microtech will do fine. For any other application I'd fork out for something a bit more sophisticated. The Haltech E11 is a great option because they have a plug-and-play wiring harness available for the 2JZ.
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Location: Osama's hideout
Registered: February 2003
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Wed, 17 August 2005 02:11

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thats a bit harsh norbie.
i drive mine 400k's a week, no dramas. cold starts fine, fuel consumption, with the 550ccs was good, now with the 1000cc's its thirsty.
haltech and autronic had a heap of features that i deemed i didnt need, and i certainly didnt need the additional cost.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: August 2005
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Wed, 17 August 2005 02:37

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Haltech is the way! Its good stuff!
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Location: Sydney, OZ
Registered: May 2002
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Wed, 17 August 2005 07:21

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Really all of them in the $1000-1500 price bracket do more or less the same function, fuel and ignition and one or two auxilary functions. It's not like the old days where Microtech had screw driver adjustments and Haltech need a laptop, EMS had a fancy handset... It was these models which set people opinions in todays market. I will admit microtech models up to the digi 2 always had issues giving a some what mixed reaction and everyone complained about never holding tune, that's probably because they only needed to run right for 10-20sec for 1/4 runs! and this was there main market segment, not modified daily drivers.... Also I don't hear much about Motech, who also started out with a simliar design to Mircotech, that's right, adjustments by a screwdriver! These models also suffered the same problems too, but these were around well before Haltech and mircotech etc (1987). It's not til you go the next level that things change. At this level, Really Microtech LTX8, EMS stinger and Haltech's E6x perform great. Autronic, well just the Basic SMC will work fine, but there are additional options that will need to be added internally depending on application ie A dwell board, certain specific sensor such as Oxy etc will need to be purchased, So you need to check if each unit will run factory sensor's or will you need to buy ones to suit. ie EMS stinger can use some factory sensors, but sometimes none at all. I will admit I'm not up to date with the current Haltech's,(though I itching to try one of those interceptors on the ford) The E6K I had in one of my earlier cars I had to change every sensor over! Sorry that's was more cash I really didn't want to spend and another car we had ran a mircotech and I didn't have to buy or change a thing, ran the factory stuff straight from the box. Both ran fine til I sold them. Currenly we run an Autronic SMC,which was cheap at the time->$1100 fitted an tuned but the guy went broke doin it for this! Runs great too with little hassles. The new car currenly being built runs a Motech M400.. We only chose the motech this time because of it's additional Datalogging capabilities when compare to everything else, otherwise any of the above would do the job!
Quote: | which management is better for a 2jzgte
Ive been told a haltech and been told a microtech?
Microtechs ive been told are easier to wire up but my mate uses one and want something different
any other managements i should consider
Anyone with prices
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Spend a day on the phone and chat to the seller's, All will do the same and will run this engine... I know from experince these seller's will tell you different stories on why the one they're selling is better... don't listen to them as there just trying to make a sale. Lay out all the facts then make the choice on what suit you in the way of Time, money and options etc and you won't go wrong.
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Location: Toronto, Downtown
Registered: September 2004
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Location: Launceston
Registered: February 2004
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Wed, 17 August 2005 10:09

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http://www.adaptronic.com.au/index.html
Try adaptronic, has almost everything you could want and cost from $990 -$1130 and dont let the cheap price put you off as these WILL selftune and run closed loop with a normal narrow band oxygen sensor or you can use a wide band too, laptop program, temp rev limit,fuel and ignition rev limit, Multi coil ,downloadable Firmware and regular updates, Eight configurable auxiliary outputs, Eight configurable auxiliary digital inputs, Datalogging via PC software etc.
go read the specs and see whay ya think.
http://www.adaptronic.com.au/tech.htmlSpecs
[Updated on: Wed, 17 August 2005 10:15]
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Location: sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Thu, 18 August 2005 09:58

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hey ive got a haltech in my soarer
and guess wat before i had a microtech
being a 1jz wouldnt be much different to a 2jz
the microtech ran like a pig on idle it was rough it drove ok
but as soon as i changed to haltech i noticed big differences
i got better mid range
it ran smooth on idle it was a totally better setup than microtech
if u wanna go top notch .. with a haltech ..chuck on their coilpack setup and a walbro 255 fuel pump ...man u will have a beast
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Thu, 18 August 2005 10:25

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No, you didn't achieve that from the Haltech, you achieved that from a tuner who knew the Haltech better.
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Location: sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Thu, 18 August 2005 12:28

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the guy that installed both microtech & haltech tuned them both properly
different computers run better in different cars
but a haltech on an SR20 itll run like crap
but chuck a microtech ...it does wonders
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Thu, 18 August 2005 14:12

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I don't agree sorry dude, it's all a function of inputs and outputs. It doesn't care what engine it's running, it just takes the sensor values and spits out the correct fueling and ignition.
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Location: Toronto, Downtown
Registered: September 2004
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Thu, 18 August 2005 15:39

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i dunno alot of people have success with microtechs but personally i would steer clear of them if it were me....
The wolf 3d v4 plus i have is great a bit tricky to set up but great to use... I found that when u plugged in the laptop everything worked as i expected it to and i didnt need extra sensors to set it up the wolf 3d came with everything i needed..
Once setup with a competant tuner the wolf gives great results
again this is my personal expeirnce
The Wolf 3D ver 4 plus is $1500 or so retail and are good value for money i had mine installed + tuned for $2300 including the ecu
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Thu, 18 August 2005 21:43

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I agree with justcallmefrank it doesn't matter what engine they are running it matters how they are tunned.
I have a Haltech running me GZE and I couldn't be happier but I think that is because the guy that tuned it has been working with Haltech's for years and knows then back to front.
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Location: Osama's hideout
Registered: February 2003
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Location: sydney
Registered: June 2004
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Fri, 19 August 2005 02:13

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ae92_GZE wrote on Fri, 19 August 2005 07:43 | I agree with justcallmefrank it doesn't matter what engine they are running it matters how they are tunned.
I have a Haltech running me GZE and I couldn't be happier but I think that is because the guy that tuned it has been working with Haltech's for years and knows then back to front.
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i agree the guy that installed and tuned my car is top notch on haltech
adam from JEM
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Location: Sydney
Registered: April 2004
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Location: Darwin
Registered: August 2003
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Fri, 19 August 2005 10:01

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Don't Know much about this but what about the Hawk EC21 It is Australian Made and meant to do Most Anything Needed
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Sat, 20 August 2005 01:02

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We need a thread of good tuners in each state. I need a new ECU soon and I dont know who tunes what well in my area.
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Location: Kelmscott, Perth, W.A
Registered: March 2004
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Thu, 08 September 2005 14:45

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monkeymajik wrote on Sat, 20 August 2005 09:02 | We need a thread of good tuners in each state. I need a new ECU soon and I dont know who tunes what well in my area.
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yeah thats a good idea. im looking to go standalone but when i think about it i just go brain dead because there are so many conflicting stories about different ecu's and so little reputable tuners that you can TRUST...
(1JZ in Perth)
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Location: Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
Registered: January 2003
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Re: microtech vs haltech vs anyother eng manage sys
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Thu, 08 September 2005 14:50
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meh, learn how to tune it and do it yourself
it's nto really that hard...
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