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advantages of a pod filter??
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Tue, 04 June 2002 12:49
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what are the advantages on making a cold air intake with a pod filter over the standard intake?
trying to convince a mate to let me play with his car first 
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Tue, 04 June 2002 12:51
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ohh and best place to buy one in melbourne?
thanks
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 07:10
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A proper cold air setup will have a small advantage, but in 90% of cases a pod filter will do jack-shit. They tend to increase the induction noise so your engine sounds faster, but most cars these days have very little pressure drop across the air filter so there's no real performance to be gained.
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 08:31
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not much to a standard motor, on a car with extractors and a bigger exhaust you will notice a difference, might be small but there is a difference, also better fuel economy
i swapped my ram pod for a unifilter (foam type) today and in upper revs there was a much bigger difference but the old one was stuffed anyway, and the motor was MUCH smoother than before
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 08:39
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 i'm not being much help here but, i have a simota pod style in mine, (mr2 sc) i feel it's heeps better over standard, but best of all is the noise it makes through the filter when you tromp it! the sc makes it sound awsome! sorry for this useless bit of info
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June 2002
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 08:59
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yeah cool
getting some conflicting reports over them. it was the same when trawling through the old forums... lot of people on both sides of the fence.
talking to someone today mentioned that its possibly illegal to mount behind the front bumper bar near the wheel guards. he wasn't completely sure tho.
thoughts?
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 10:17
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Found that the only thing the pod did to my car was make it pull better from 6500 - 7500rpm, before the filter it sounded like it was struggling to make those revs, now the power cureve up there is smoother. As for the car have any extra performance though i doubt it.
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 10:25
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all i will say is this..
how many race cars do you see with a STOCK air filter and airbox 
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 10:27
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true... but there is a complete difference between intake requirements of a race car flying down a drag strip or round a circuit to a road car cruisin freeways and surburbs at legal speeds
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I supported Toymods
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 10:48
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A K&N open-cone element type filter will (supposedly) give better throttle response through less intake restriction - some airboxes have a tiny hole to breathe through.
I originally put a drop-in-replacement K&N filter in my stock airbox and then swiss-chessed the airbox full of holes with a large drill bit so I effectvely had an open-element filter. Throttle response was definetly better, but how much of the gain was just from the change in filter type I don't know. The problem with this set up is that your engine only breathes hot engine-bay air. I noticed good response initially, but as the engine warmed up and the enginebay filled up with warm air, performance decressed somewhat. So whether you end up gaining from a pod filter or whatwver, I can't say either because in many cases you'll be breathing more air, but it'll be hotter
I've now covered up the swisschessed holes and have PCV piping running to the front airdam. Only breathes cold air, and maybee a slight ram-air effect.
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 11:10
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btw whats the best way to properly setup my ram pod..?
right now its just soaking hot air..
and its got a 3" clip at the end.. so is it best to get a tube? and where?
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 12:32
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No Message Body
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 12:48
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anyone know if they are illegal now?
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Hobart, Tas
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 12:54
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How do they legally sell K&N filters, or 2.25" exhaust, or sports mufflers, or BOVs or ANYTHING then????!!!!!
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 12:57
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i was referring to locating pod filters outside engine bay... like do with cold air intake.
can sell air filters because can replace the standard one within teh standard airbox.
thats just my reasoning - not sure bout the rest hence asking.
gotta be some people round here that know bit more bout it.
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:00
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Fair enough. You don't *have* to locate a cone filter outside the body for cold air. You can either keep the cone filter inside the engine bay, heatsheild it ala Nark and run ducting to it, or just buy a drop in replacement filter and run piping to the airbox
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:01
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| Stefan wrote on Wed, 05 June 2002 10:54 PM |
How do they legally sell K&N filters, or 2.25" exhaust, or sports mufflers, or BOVs or ANYTHING then????!!!!!
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the airfilters have lables like racing etc
spots mufflers should be allright..
but i dont know! hehehe
i guess if you have souped up car.. noisy and show.. they'll search everywhere for sure
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melbourne
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:02
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yeah good point there.
guess was just thinking from an optimistic point of view of trying to find coldest area.
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 05 June 2002 13:49
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My friend had a Mitsubishi Mirage and he put a UNI Filter on it and every thing else is stock and he has been pulled over by the cops about 10 times cause the induction noise. You can here him from more than a K away and he says it improves the performance heaps.
Just my 5 cents worth.
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Thu, 06 June 2002 12:04
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Whether or not a pod is illegal isn't really relevant - if theres some big colourful lampshade looking thing under the bonnet, its a wonderful attraction to officers of the law. If you've got stickers, blue lights, shiny bits, etc. stuck all over your car, its a wonderful attraction to those that enforce the law. When they pull you over, some like to find something to do you for just to make their effort worthwhile. Whether or not somethings truly illegal, if they see it and don't like it they tend to mention it. As for advantages, so many people can 'feel' such a 'massive' improvement when they fit a lampshade, simply cost its cost them money and makes more noise, not to mention that sometimes it does funny things to the idle with a hotwire AFM. Take a look at cars that do go fast though, and you'll find that whatever type of filter they use its something that flows plenty of air easily, and is given a decent supply of cool breezes from somewhere outside the car. Whether its done with a lampshade or an airbox is really up to you... (and much as i don't like to admit it, I've got a lampshade on my car simply cos there wasn't enough room for a box without hacking things to pieces unnecessarily) 
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Western Sydney
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Sat, 08 June 2002 08:02
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Pod filters are illegal. Whether you get done for it depends on whether or not the cops are in a good mood.
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Sat, 08 June 2002 08:24
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can u explain why?
what state?
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Sat, 08 June 2002 08:39
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i think whether they are illegal or not is relevent. while yes they lead to an increase in induction noise and possibly attract the coppers a bit more, but if there is a definate performance advantage coupled with freer flowing exhaust then the pros are gonna outweight the cons.
however if they are in fact illegal then while the pros might be good you'd have to ofset that against the risk of being pulled over by the cops and ur car booted off the road coz of it.
so if u can afford to have ur car off the road to replace it with the original then i don't see why u wouldn't do it provied got the setup to actually make use of it. if u cant afford to have ur car off the road then just dont' do it. pretty simple.
having read through the vicroads cars thingy that tells you what can and can't do to cars, i didn't see any mention to intakes and pod filters being illegal. but maybe thats only victoria or i was reading the wrong thing.
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Western Sydney
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Sat, 08 June 2002 10:01
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I'm talking NSW. The EPA doesn't like them because they supposedly change the characteristics of exhaust flow/gases. Anything that does this is meant to be illegal. So bigger exhaust, etc are technically illegal. Nobody does anything about the bigger exhaust issue unless it exceeds noise regs. Check out the RTA website. I'm sure it's somewhere in there.
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Melbourne
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May 2002
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Sat, 08 June 2002 23:37
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looking a a few cheepo "pods" at marlows the other day and i noticed most of them had poor sealing around the end cap part that would allow dirt and crap in very shity indeed! ill stick to a panel filter with a uni filter insert thay seem to work well
Allan
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Mon, 10 June 2002 02:44
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I'd be interested to know how many of you actually measured the pressure drop across your stock filter before replacing it with a pod filter. If your car is reasonably modern I'd be surprised if you could even measure a pressure drop!
Even so, people who have them swear black and blue that they make a big difference...
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Sun, 07 July 2002 05:25
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HI,
dont know if this will help but the PODS are definately illegal, checked it up myself, also you dont gain any extra power just smoother reving which you can gain from just using the K&G filters ask some one with more exhaust fitting expertise might be able to help you.
But the info i have given is correct i went and asked heaps of exhaust places!
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Tue, 09 July 2002 13:06
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| celicamad85 wrote on Wed, 05 June 2002 8:25 PM |
all i will say is this..
how many race cars do you see with a STOCK air filter and airbox
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Laughs - just remebered something here - I have seen ONE 
Dick johnsons " true blue " XD falcon race car - has a stock aircleaner with a pipe running into it from under the radiator for a " cold air induction " setup
Apparelntly it was very effective - but theres proof
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Tue, 09 July 2002 13:29
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>Re: advantages of a pod filter?? Sun, 07 July 2002 3:25 PM
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>HI,
>dont know if this will help but the PODS are definately >illegal, checked it up myself, also you dont gain any extra >power just smoother reving which you can gain from just using >the K&G filters ask some one with more exhaust fitting >expertise might be able to help you.
>But the info i have given is correct i went and asked heaps of >exhaust places!
I'm glad you checked it up yourself, but where is the evidence for all of us with slightly modified air filters, who are left wondering if we are breaking the law?
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Preston
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June 2002
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Re: advantages of a pod filter??
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Wed, 10 July 2002 00:03
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I put a simota pod filter on mine and didnt notice anything different until about 6000 rpm. It used to go a bit flat there but with the filter it felt slightly better. Nothing major, but i never bought it for the power, just for the sound. I got pulled over one time and the cop told me that it wasn't illegal to have one but you were supposed to make a box or at least a covering for it. Last year at Spring Car Nats in Shepparton, my friend in a GT4 took one of the grills on the bonnet out, and made a pipe so the pod would sit on top of the bonnet. He got defected for the BOV and Chrome wipers but not for the air filter, Even though when the cop asked him to open his bonnet he had to get a screwdriver and take the pod off first!
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Cabramatta, NSW
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