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3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Thu, 25 August 2005 14:30
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Hi all,
I've searched long and hard, but I can't find any info in the forums about this....
I've recently purchased a Celica TA23 with a 3T-GTE engine. The car runs quite well, although it seems a little sluggish to take off. This is the first problem. and any suggestions would be great! I know very little about newer turbo engines, as ive only worked on the older 2T engines 
The engine seems in good condition and is fairly clean, although my main concern is a mate just spotted a large amount of builtup oil and gunk at the front of the engine just on and mainly below the 3T-GTE symbol plate, above the various belts etc...
Tomorrow i'm going to check to see if there is any oil in the coolant and degrease the engine, but are there any other ways of determining whether the head gasket is blown ? I've just spent all the money I had purchasing the car, so I really hope its not blown as I guess its going to be expensive... 
Any help would be really great.
Thanks in advance!
Toby
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Thu, 25 August 2005 17:08
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do a compression test.
Also give us some pics of the car and engine 
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Fri, 26 August 2005 11:20
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Ok, Below is a link to some pictures.
http://www.arach.net.au/~thehive/celica/index.htm
I had to remove the fan shroud, radiator and fan before I could get into the damn thing. The 3T-GTE only just fits into the engine bay
I also noticed that the radiator is completely dead. Its got leaks and rust all through it. That will be the first thing I will replace. Does anyone know where to get new ones ??? or would a good condition second hand one be a better idea ?? Whats models can you use ?
There was a hell of a lot of oil and dirt buildup around the pully area and as you can see from the pictures, completely caked over the 3T symbol, so much that I had to wipe it off with my finger.
After putting the radiator and fan back in I found that the engine is running rough when I accelerate, once it hits above 2500 revs its ok, but its very strange, and it only did that before when I ran out of fuel (I just filled it up tonight). It also gets very hot very quickly, which I assume is the fault of the radiator.
Its all very strange. I really need to take it to a mechanic, but I've got very limited funds... so I'd like to do as much as possible myself, before resorting to that.
Any help would be really great ??
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Fri, 26 August 2005 15:42
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ewwwwwww that needs a good clean
if it's a ta22 radiator, just get a second hand one in good condition.
make sure you clean all the stuff cause if it drops on the crank pully n that it could damage the belts.
check all the vaccum hoses.
is this the oil cooled version? does it have a oil cooler?
what suburb you in i could come around and have a looksy?
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Fri, 26 August 2005 15:54
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hmm can you take a few pics of your whole engine?
is that a water pump i see on the left?
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Fri, 26 August 2005 16:20
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Yeah there are some hoses that really should be replaced. I'll get to em on sunday most likely. - Most of the general hoses, ie radiator, vacuum etc... are a little stiff etc...
I'm not sure if its an oil cooled version ? I suspect it would be because wern't they the stock standard out of the factory ?? Its got a second radiator in front of the engine radiator.. would that be the oil cooler ???
I'm in Yokine, WA (next to Mt Lawley). Your welcome to have a look. Any advice would be sweet I just want to get it back into shape. The car has been restored previously by someone and the previous owner (after him) let it go a bit I think. This car diserves to be restored and looked after
I'll take a few more pics of it tomorrow eve for ya
Thanks again!
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Fri, 26 August 2005 16:29
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i'm in Mirrabooka, 3t-gteu engines came either water or oil cooled and i've never seen a water cooled version, i don't know if yours is one cause it has a water pump or what i think is one?
best thing to do would be to degrease it, then take it for a good drive and then check if any oil is back, if any gaskets are stuffed i know a place in sydney that stock 3t-gte gaskets, it's where i got my one.
ohh and this is what your 3t-gte sign should look like
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Sat, 27 August 2005 01:06
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I'm not sure whether its water or oil cooled.
I've cleaned the engine, and it now looks much better. I've taken it out last night, and today to work, so I'll see how much oil is back tomorrow.
If there is a fair bit of oil is it fair to assume that its the HG ??? If you have a minute do you think I may be able to bring it round for you to take a look at ?
The other thing I've found is that it runs out of fuel when the fuel gauge reaches just below the 1/2 way mark. I'm guessing its not drawing fuel from any lower than that ??? Any thoughts ?
Cheers!
p.s. oh yeah, the fan shroud is not essential to the cooling system is it ? I've taken it off until I get the new radiator in it.
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Sat, 27 August 2005 10:47
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because theres oil doesn't mean it's the head gasket, it could be the rocker cover gasket, the 3t-gteu sign gasket or some other ones. Best bet is to wait a couple of days after you have driven it around and there check if and where the oil comes from.
you should put the shroud on cause it makes sure all the cooling from the fan goes into the radiator.
With the fuel gauge it could be a number of things. Easiest thing to check i think would be the fuel sender is properly in. I think the ta22 tank is behind the seat? dunno thats what i heard.
Have you got a compression tester? you can pick them up from like repco for like $20, it'll tell you each compression in each chamber and is the easiest way to tell if you have a blown HG
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Sun, 28 August 2005 09:31
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Dont sweat mate... These are very rare engines and with some TLC, you will be extreamly happy once these problems are fixed. I just purchased a 3T-GTE that is being rebuilt now... Took me like 6months to find one.
Good Luck
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Sun, 28 August 2005 09:45
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Hey mate,
Thanks for the heads up I've only owned the car for less than a week so naturally everything is up in the air.... until I work out whats exactly wrong with it and what I need to do to it.
I just need to find someone in Perth that can help me get it all done... any takers ???
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March 2005
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Sun, 28 August 2005 10:06
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| jackel wrote on Sat, 27 August 2005 01:54 |
hmm can you take a few pics of your whole engine?
is that a water pump i see on the left?
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Here's some pics of the whole engine.
Does it look like water or oil cooled ??
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Sun, 28 August 2005 18:32
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hmm from them pics i dunno. Do you have a oil cooler at the front, if you don't know what that is, it's looks like a little radiator. from what i've read on here 135 is decent for a 3t-gte so i doubt its your head gasket.
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Mon, 29 August 2005 01:37
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Yep Its got a little radiator in front of the water radiator.
Sweet. I'm glad its not the head, but the gradual increasing of the compression on each stroke has got me worried about the piston rings.
As for the oil leaks, im pretty sure its the rocker cover and possibly one other gasket, although there is already oil on the block at the front, (same area) and im not sure where its coming from...
Before, you mentioned you had a site where you could get 3TGTE parts ??? can you tell me the URL ???? do they have other gaskets ?
Thanks again!
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Re: 3T-GTE oil leaks?
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Mon, 29 August 2005 16:29
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The website below is where you can get all your gaskets from also dissy cap and other misc stuff, or you could just buy some gasket paper and make it yourself.
http://www.swmotorsport.com/
If your looking for parts, the selling part of this forum is proberly the best place in the world to find things for your 3t-gteu
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