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Toronto, Downtown
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 27 August 2005 07:43
 
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ahhhh if the ems computer has been tuned well you will loose power when seitching back to the stock gze computer... You will also need a complete GZE wiring loom and possibly afm. The only reason i can think of that you would want to change the ecu back is legality reasons....
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Sat, 27 August 2005 11:20
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not entirely.. the mechanic told me that ems wasnt a great brand ecu due tot he reasons that the idle was too low and it constantly needs a re-tune
i didnt even show him my car and he was right 
think its best if i got back to the stocker till i saved up for a better one like microtech lt8 or power fc
and also for legality reasons 
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 27 August 2005 11:24
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fair enuf
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I supported Toymods
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Sydney
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May 2002
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 27 August 2005 12:16
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yeh thats the guy i spoke to actually, i was introduced to him by my tafe teacher  (tourism)
and its true he loves his asian stuff
he must love me too lol 
right now its 4agze from the aw11 in a flatback ae82 with a few goodies, i bought it off my mate and he got it tuned at rigoli's i was curious to try them out.
SW20R: how do you rate just engine garage in comparison to other garages?
i also emailed bel garage and they hate to tune ems as they said its not a real time ecu i was referred to F&E Mechanicals and was wondering if anybody knew any info about them.
thanks for the input guys
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Location:
sydney
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March 2005
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 08:29
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yo i the same set up but on the ems stinger version i need a tune also to get it starting and idling properly , i am looking for places to get quotes , any referals ?
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 08:55
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rigoli are an official distributer for ems so they would know their sh*t when it comes to the stinger
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 11:29
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yeh i got mine tuned from rigoli's V&E keep that in mind
it roughly was quoted 160 for the first hour and 80 dollars every hour after that
my idle sucks balls though after the tune.. it idles at 500 if im lucky and then obviously dies out... on startup
any ideas other than a wongky tune?
try dyno dave pm me for the number
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Location:
Strathfield / Sydney
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July 2003
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 12:47
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If they did a crap job take it back
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Location:
Gold Coast
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June 2003
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 13:15
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Give RICOL a try. They specialise in EMS and did an awsome job with Josh's pink AE86.
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sydney
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March 2005
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 16:04
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rigoli didnt tuned it properly ? fark it seems the 4agze with ems struggle , mine runs fine after it has warmed up , its like cold start is not connected, i warm it up by giving gas at 1g to get it warm then the car runs ok , but idle hovers
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Location:
sydney
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March 2005
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 16:05
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what dyno dave number and location
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Location:
Sydney
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May 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 22:08
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ricol did a good job on my old car.
It idled fine!
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Sat, 10 September 2005 23:09
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my ems runs fine... why does the ems need to be retuned if anything i like that ecu beter it has flash memory so you dont need to get it retuned if you kill the ecu's power for months
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sydney
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March 2003
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Re: ems ecu
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Sun, 11 September 2005 11:41
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nobody wants to pay over 500 bucks for a very good tune
that is why most cars with aftermarket ecus run shit
mind u some tunes cost alot more and are a shit job
basically u need to state to tuner
u want very good job
pay for a good job
get idle good
get cold start good which means testing it over 3 days
and get good power
so if u want all of the above and u do not want to spend alot of money then you have nothing to whinge about
tell the tuner if yr goin to pay for a good tune u want a good tune or u will bring it back
otheriwse take it to another tuner
there is not many goo dtuners these days that are consistent
people ask me who to tune it these days and i dont reply with anyone anymore
no one gives a fuk anymore
when doin top quality work
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Sun, 11 September 2005 12:46
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you get what you pay for
pay penuts you get monkeys
good tuners should be able to get close to the money the first time but tuning is an ongoing thing not a put it in the shop pick it up the next day thing
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sydney
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March 2005
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Re: ems ecu
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Sun, 11 September 2005 13:13
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does anyone has a map tuned for a 4agze on ems stinger for ae82
can someone send it to me i rather try it before i got get it tuned.
iheard it can fix the cold start problems
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Sun, 11 September 2005 13:35
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i have a map for a wolf 3d for a gze dont know if it is similar the base values might well be similar
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Re: ems ecu
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Mon, 12 September 2005 00:14
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i got a map ems dual sport
sorry dude, i reccommend you dont touch the ecu unless you know what your doing, thats my 2 cents, rather pay it to get it pro done or jus leave it as is
i think it should have a sticker like kids toys
not recommended for 5 years and under
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Location:
Parramatta
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July 2002
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Re: ems ecu
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Mon, 12 September 2005 03:26
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i have ems duel sport it idle's fine and i dont have to keep getting its re-tune. To me this makes no sense its a computer that retains its tune if the car dies in power or something is different then a retune will be required with any ecu.
I would swear by EMS love it.
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I Supported Toymods
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Glenmore Park, NSW
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March 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Mon, 12 September 2005 08:48
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i'd recomend JEM @ Moorebank as well.
Haven't used him personally but many a friend has with no complaints at all.
Cheers
Nathan
PS this is also pretty much what the shop does instal and tune.
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sydney
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March 2005
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Re: ems ecu
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Tue, 13 September 2005 08:01
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JEM what does that stand for ?
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Location:
Sydney
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April 2003
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Re: ems ecu
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Tue, 13 September 2005 10:46
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Just Engine Management
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NSW
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June 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Tue, 13 September 2005 21:30
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http://www.enginemanagement.com.au/maps.php
Dont know how reliable these maps would be. Go down to the 4424 map if you have the newest stinger and check the 4agze one.
there are a few maps on there for the different series engines.
Anyone know who the best tuner of ems is yet.
MR.2 who tuned your dual sport?
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Location:
newcastle
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April 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Tue, 13 September 2005 22:44
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I also have a ems dualsport in my car and its done
everything I've wanted it to do 
I do agree it comes down to the tuner
cheers
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Location:
sunny coast, qld
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October 2002
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Re: ems ecu
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Wed, 14 September 2005 04:09
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go to www.wbo2.com and get one of them. Then tune yourself and learn along the way
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Location:
Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: ems ecu
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Wed, 14 September 2005 04:23
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| 4agte wrote on Sun, 11 September 2005 22:46 |
you get what you pay for
pay penuts you get monkeys
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unfortunately these days when you go to a mechanic, you are paying monkeys, regardless of the size of the peanuts, and you always get monkey shit back
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Location:
Parramatta
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July 2002
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Re: ems ecu
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Wed, 14 September 2005 05:23
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yeah i know someone that is great however i have a incident with him very recently (f*^ked part of my car) and not claming the responsiablity, so i will not refer anyone to him nor whill i be procceding to go back to him. So i am in the same boat, i need to find some very good EMS tuners.
I do know some very good ones.
Steve - from premmier (old dyno days used to be done there)
Rigols (ask for the old man to do it)
and heard good things from JEM also.
I am in need of a tune soon (after i fix the damn problem cause by the wanker) i am going to go to steve and then from there i am going to see if rigolis can better the tune. If not then i will try JEM I will let you know.
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Wed, 14 September 2005 08:29
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dual sport sheesh.. rich pimps whyd yous go with dual sport i couldnt see the benefit of dual sport to stinger on a street car
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Re: ems ecu
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Thu, 15 September 2005 07:33
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whats the difference?
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Location:
Sutherland, Sydney
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June 2002
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Re: ems ecu
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Fri, 30 September 2005 19:40
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The guys at WM Motorsport in Brendale Brisbane kick ass when it comes to EMS and tuning in general. Personally, after experience with Sydney dickheads where you don't get what you pay for, I send my car on a car carrier to QLD and get rebuilding/mechanical work done and great job that is tuned how you would expect it to be then shipped back for for same if not cheaper price than Sydney monkeys.
Do your own research too. If you believe what you hear from different shops there wouldn't be anything worth buying on the market. It's very much a matter of if they don't stock it/back it then it's shit or doesn't work. Most times it's due to their own ignorance of a product which leads them to those conclusions.
Steve,
ST185CS 009
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Location:
blue mountains , sydney
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May 2004
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Re: ems ecu
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Wed, 05 October 2005 16:05
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hitman performance in penrith is good , you can often find several race cars outside waiting for tuning , with various management systems in them , though he specialises in haltec (agent for them) often i have been down there and seen him tuning lotus 7 clubman racers (mostly 4ag motors) he has gotten a reputation for good work, and a fair price,also has dyno for tuning.
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Location:
Parramatta
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July 2002
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Re: ems ecu
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Wed, 05 October 2005 22:59
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i have had hitman tune my car great guy and great tun but he specilizie in Haltek. nothing that is really different between the duel sport and stinger, stinger wasnt out when i brought duel sport.
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