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October 2004
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5s-fe to turbo
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Sun, 28 August 2005 08:36
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hey guys a mate of mine has a 1995 model celica with a 5s-fe and he wants to turbo it. what would be the easiest way. is their a 5s-gte stock . or would he be better off with a 3sgte conversion.
thanks
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Location:
Melb, Victoria
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April 2004
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Sun, 28 August 2005 09:29
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There is no factory made 5sfte or 5sgte. If he's interested in turboing the 5s. check the celicatech.com website, in the forced induction forum. the American's turbo these motor's all the time with great results 
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Location:
NSW
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May 2005
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Sun, 28 August 2005 13:41
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some of the stock internals are forged on the early 5sfe's. Only pistons to buy. Otherwise it proberbly wont last long even on the stock 7psi of a ct26 turbo. However the best option is to swap witha 3sgte. these things are sweet, and will pretty much bolt on, that is apart from the rear engine mount. Import half cuts can be got for 3 grand or less and are a fairly easy instal for someone who has a bit of experience and knowledge. If he has a auto tranny a tranny oil cooler will be needed.
for the 5s turbo, you will need all sorts of electronics, greddy emanage, or Apexi SAFC II and MSD-BTW(spl). Supra 360 or larger injectors, i think *top entry low impedance?* fuel pump- walbro 225.electronic boost controler.
the list goes on
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Location:
Melbourne, Victoria
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December 2004
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Sun, 28 August 2005 14:45
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some of the stock internals are forged on the early 5sfe's. Only pistons to buy.
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Hey...does that mean 5S internals are pretty good are they...? Or does that mean you need to forge the internals...? Hmm...sounds interesting though...?
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Location:
Sydney NSW
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August 2005
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Mon, 29 August 2005 03:15
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i was under the impression that the 2.2litre 5s-fe was a bored out 2.0litre from the previous model celica,
also i read in a fast 4's mag where they ripped into this engine(5s-fe) for being so fragile and told readers to stay away from st184's, this was after i had mine of course
i would be very interested in any turbo upgrades you guys could suggest because up until this thread i had the belief that there was no hope for the old beast,
it is a cool run around car for while my projects are off the road though
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Location:
Melbourne, Victoria
Registered:
December 2004
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Mon, 29 August 2005 06:25
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In other words, would you say the 5SFE-T is not that bad an option not considering the reliability of the engine...? Wow...so the stock internal's could handle the 7psi...? And it wouldn't cost too much...? I dunno...that's what i'm understanding from that post...tellme if i'm totally wrong... Wow...Yeah, I didn't know that at all...
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Brisbane
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October 2002
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Mon, 29 August 2005 06:54
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there is a wide body camry in brissy, its an ex rice 4's cover car, 10LNI are the plates,
he boosted the 5S, goes very well, turns the tyres when it comes on boost in 2nd, have seen it do it myself
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Mon, 29 August 2005 07:38
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that engine is far from standard though.. it was built my wm motorsport at brendale... still isnt pushing out as much power as a 3sgte with the same mods but still goes like shit from a shovel
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Location:
Melb, Victoria
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April 2004
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Mon, 29 August 2005 08:20
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After having a quick skim-read of the threads on celicatech.com. you need to run larger injectors (say off another larger toyota engine), bigger fuel pump (walbro 255,supra pump, 3sgte pump), aftermarket management,also a h/g to decomp the head a bit, 3sgte manifold and turbo, custom oil/water lines etc.
Thats just a few things to start. And they run about 7-9psi. Some of them producing over 200fwhp!
If you own a st184 (or st204 especially) its worth looking into.(eg. legalities of engine's age and engine numbers matching.)
seriously though, check out the site if your serious about doing it.
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Location:
Melbourne, Victoria
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December 2004
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Tue, 30 August 2005 06:14
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Just wondering all this stuff...would apply to a 3S-FE too right...? As they are both basically the same...?
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Location:
new castle
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July 2005
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Wed, 31 August 2005 04:10
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i dont know if it'd apply to the 3s-fe, 5s-fe is a later model engine isnt it?? and the 5s-fe has stronger internals hence the reason you dont see many 3s-fe turbo's around...if at all
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Location:
Sydney
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September 2003
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Location:
brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: 5s-fe to turbo
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Wed, 31 August 2005 05:28
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i dont think there would be a big differene in 3sfe to 5sfe, neither engines were built to have power coming out there arse... so neither are really suitable without changing internals but it has been done and has worked
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