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Location: Rosanna, Melb
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 01:56
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i have had a read of this before and also went down to vicroads... i asked them about a 4age in a ae71/Ke70, and as far as i know as long as its a 4A block it should be alright? but the people at vicroads are noobs so im not sure where to go about this???
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2002
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 02:34
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i dont know... im trying to make my sprinter look as stock as i can... are there any stock filters that will fit the sprinter?
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: June 2002
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 02:42
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not sure about a stock air box, try a trick i saw a guy do awhile ago on the forums, chaneg the 4AGE on the front of the cam cover to a "C" so it reads 4AC then play dumb lol, just go rip off a factory airbox off anything to bluff your way through the vic roads number change! lol otherwise the only things needed for an engineers is the bigger T18 rear end and soem jap spec brakes or better, luckily my last car had both of these anyway if i were to get caught out
MT
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 03:15
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ah yea, the PMP80Y 100kw 4AC
is there any stock air box that would fit in the sprinter well? i might have to move that washer bottle
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Location: Rosanna, Melb
Registered: June 2002
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 04:49
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Sure, there are plenty of ways to get around things, but it often seems to come up that people ask what needs an engineers certificate. Just posting the official line on the issue.
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 09:06
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2t 2t-b 2tg were all cool when i went thru the engine swap situation
so id assume it would be ok with 4a familys ..
Now 7m - to 1jz in say a *a70 supra is possible seeing its a model option - and i know a few in vic ( like hirogens dads ) that got thru without needing engineering
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 09:34
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what about a 4k to 4a? u think they would notice the difference?
that 1jz ma70 looked pretty neat too
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I Supported Toymods
Location: melbourne.vic.au
Registered: May 2002
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 10:04
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Classique71 wrote on Tue, 30 August 2005 19:06 | 2t 2t-b 2tg were all cool when i went thru the engine swap situation
so id assume it would be ok with 4a familys ..
Now 7m - to 1jz in say a *a70 supra is possible seeing its a model option - and i know a few in vic ( like hirogens dads ) that got thru without needing engineering
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Um... I wonder if I can go 1JZ in the MA61 in Victoria
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Location: Colac, Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Rosanna, Melb
Registered: June 2002
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 13:14
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Classique71 wrote on Tue, 30 August 2005 19:06 | Now 7m - to 1jz in say a *a70 supra is possible seeing its a model option
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Not a model option in Australia though, which from my investigations is a crucial difference. I suppose the whole import version issue muddies the water.
And I'm sure there are plenty of things that slide past (I know of a 4A into TA22 that sailed through an inspection) but I just thought I'd post this direct quote from the website. But again, if in doubt talk to VicRoads.
Hen
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Tue, 30 August 2005 13:25
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i ask this girl @ vic roads, "she said just bring in the car with the engine, no booking required"
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
Registered: September 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Wed, 31 August 2005 02:56
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In 1996 I got a Gemini with a G200 SOHC Rodeo engine passed at VicRoads. I actually told them it had a 2litre in it, they told me it was an optional engine, so I didn't argue.
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Location: Victoria
Registered: May 2002
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Wed, 31 August 2005 05:59
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even if u can dodge ur way past getting the engine number on the rego sticker
What about insurance? if u pay insurance for ur fancy hi po car with an engine conversion, even if u tell the company u have that motor
Can they deny you in a claim because the motor wasnt legal?
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Wed, 31 August 2005 06:06
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gearb0x wrote on Wed, 31 August 2005 15:59 | even if u can dodge ur way past getting the engine number on the rego sticker
What about insurance? if u pay insurance for ur fancy hi po car with an engine conversion, even if u tell the company u have that motor
Can they deny you in a claim because the motor wasnt legal?
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this is what i thought... would it apply to 4age ke70's
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: March 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Wed, 31 August 2005 07:56
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I spoke to a guy down at vicroads last week, he seemed pretty switched on - actually knew what car a 3S-GTE came standard in, i was impressed! In addition to the above, he said that the car would require an engineers certificate if:
- the engine produces > 10% more power than standard
- there was any change in capacity (larger OR smaller)
- the motor was imported but otherwise identical to the original (emissions standards)
- the brakes had been modified
He said a certificate usually cost around $350 and recommended keeping a copy of it in your glovebox should you be pulled over by the police at any stage.
I was thinking along the same lines as you guys, it'd be easy to fool the chick down at vicroads but an insurance assesor who's actually looking for modifications mightn't be so easy to get around... having insurance knocked back after forking out $1000 a year would be a real kick in the nuts.
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Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Aust...
Registered: September 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Thu, 01 September 2005 02:27
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$350? Hah! Where from?
All quotes I've had for an engineer's certificate were $800-1000.
Bloody highway robbery!
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I Supported Toymods
Location: Lwr Templestowe, Melbourne
Registered: August 2004
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Re: VIC - Engineering requirements for engine swaps
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Thu, 01 September 2005 03:23
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bnicho wrote on Thu, 01 September 2005 12:27 | $350? Hah! Where from?
All quotes I've had for an engineer's certificate were $800-1000.
Bloody highway robbery!
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Yeah... $350?? Tell us where!!
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