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Chris Davey
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Ray Hall hp calculator Fri, 02 September 2005 02:33 Go to next message
http://www.turbofast.com.au/tfcalc.html

Have a go at this and see how far off the calcs come out. I did mine and it seems that my car isn't making anywhere near as much as it should (which i already sort of knew Smile)

The instructions for the inputs are down the bottom.

Post up
engine: 1jz
air temp: 20
boost: 15
bhp per calc:452
estimated rwhp: 339

rwhp per dyno: 242

I would like to see how other people's cars fit into this calc and real life.

thanks

Chris

*edit - to work out estimated rwhp multiply by .75 for auto or .8 for manual.*

[Updated on: Fri, 02 September 2005 04:23]

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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Fri, 02 September 2005 05:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bore: 3.523
stroke: 3.149
4 cyl
8000rpm
air temp 20
engine VE 82 {which is correct}
15pound boost
70% comp efficiency
IC efficiency

325hp
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Fri, 02 September 2005 06:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Can you do 0psi and see what you get? Smile
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Sun, 04 September 2005 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bump. come on its not that hard
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Sun, 04 September 2005 15:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
3SGTE
bore: 3.405
stroke: 3.385
4 cyl
6800rpm
air temp 20
engine VE 75 {Guesstimate}
9pound boost
65% comp efficiency
50% IC efficiency

194.392BHP / 147.44RWKW

Real life - 148.8RWKW

Power at no boost = 130BHP / 98.8KW

[Updated on: Sun, 04 September 2005 15:06]

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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Sun, 04 September 2005 23:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Hmm, interesting. So yours came out very close to real life figures. When you used 50% intercooler efficiency, did the inlet temps match up to real life or can you not measure them?
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Mon, 05 September 2005 03:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I just fudged all the efficiencies to make it spit out what Mine actually produces:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/hardman69/RB25DET_Theoretical_figures.jpg

I figure the Intercooler is very efficient, since it's only flowing around 55% of it's rated maximum....
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Wed, 07 September 2005 08:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
what sorta specs should i use for an average 18rgu?

made 61.3 rwkw on dyno... std all round as far as i know.

Cheers

Nathan
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Wed, 07 September 2005 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i always thought VE for a forced induction car would be > 100% ?
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Wed, 07 September 2005 09:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Chris Davey wrote on Mon, 05 September 2005 09:16

Hmm, interesting. So yours came out very close to real life figures. When you used 50% intercooler efficiency, did the inlet temps match up to real life or can you not measure them?


well i guessed it like i said. its an MR, intercooler sits ontop of the engine in a relocated position. Tiny unit and I haven't measured the inlet outlet temps yet
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Wed, 07 September 2005 22:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
one problem is that this seems to fly in the face of the other formula for hp.

CFM = Displacement x revs x VE x pressure ratio / 2

and hp is supposedly

HP = CFM x MAP x Comp / 288.6

Of course the CFM can be made more accurate through adding air filter losses and intercooler losses...tho hardly worth it if u are guestimating the VE lol!

so if the hp is correct then it would seem that u need the comp to accurately work out the hp
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Re: Ray Hall hp calculator Thu, 08 September 2005 05:56 Go to previous message
To put it another way, the most I've seen on the PowerFC is 79% duty cycle on the injectors. Pretty sure the RB25DET has 6x360cc/min injectors (2.16L/min at 100%). Figure a 13:1 (mass:mass) A/F ratio at max Hp, blah blah blah.... I'm going to bed. It makes 180kw at the treads, who cares what Mr. Hall's online HP calculator says!! I figure it's 300->308hp at the flywheel. Makes good with the moving and noise making... Wink
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