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OZLAD79
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S/Cing a 2.0ltr 3SGE Gen2 ST162 Celica engine Fri, 02 September 2005 11:50 Go to next message
Can anyone tell me if I could bolt on(with custom brackets and pulleys etc) a Supercharger off a 4AGZE onto a stock engine in a 85 ST162 I think they are a 3SGE motor.
Just wondering if anyone has done or attempted this before? And how hard would it be? Would I need to replace the computer or add injectors etc???

Any help appreciated as Im new to this. Ill be picking one of these cars up in the next week or two and then will start chasing a S/C to rebuild and fit up.

Also how strong would the std ST162 Gbox and diff be? would it take the extra pwr without meltdown???

Thanks in advance.
Luke

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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr ST162 engine Fri, 02 September 2005 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes you can because you can just about bolt anything to any motor with custom mounts.but id be going the sc14 of the 1ggze.
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p.s god ive said the above a few times.
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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr ST162 engine Fri, 02 September 2005 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok what I really need to know is would adding the S/C require a different computer or a aftermarket job etc

coz I know some cars, ie a R31 skyline using a RB30e 3.0ltr 6cyl, you can add a s/c (which I think is in fact the sc14) without any other mods required. (you can get it in a kit from casltemain rod shop in vic ready to go for $1800). found here

they get a 30% increase at std 10psi.

any ideas what a std gen1 3sge outputs at the flywheel?
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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr ST162 engine Fri, 02 September 2005 12:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ok, just spoke to the guy, who has the ST162 im lookin at, it had a import motor put into it 12mths ago, he said he cant remember the model no. but he said it had "T-VIS" on top of the engine.....any idea what this T-VIS would mean?

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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr ST162 engine Fri, 02 September 2005 12:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
your computer will not allow for 10psi of boost in its maps.you will have to either add an injector(which i dont recommend in 2005) or go aftermarket.you can go cheap sometimes,but it usually cost alot more down the track.
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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr ST162 engine Fri, 02 September 2005 12:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
so would it in fact be better to use a SC12 which I believe are about 5-6 psi instead of the SC14?

thanks heaps for opinions etc
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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr ST162 engine Sat, 03 September 2005 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OZLAD79 wrote on Fri, 02 September 2005 22:43

ok, just spoke to the guy, who has the ST162 im lookin at, it had a import motor put into it 12mths ago, he said he cant remember the model no. but he said it had "T-VIS" on top of the engine.....any idea what this T-VIS would mean?

Luke


T-Vis is (Toyota - Variable induction system), basically has a butterfly which controls the intake, kinda like a Vtec, only doesn't have anything to do with Valves and timing.
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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr ST162 engine Sat, 03 September 2005 08:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ahh sweet....theoretically it should be slightly free-er reving with maybe a smoother pwr curve.
either way it should be an improvement over the stock motor?
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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr 3SGE Gen2 V-TIS engine & GBOX Sat, 03 September 2005 08:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
T-Vis is part of the stock motor, it revs fine, but up to 4,500 rpm the butterflies will open fully and you should notice a torque increase
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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr 3SGE Gen2 V-TIS engine & GBOX Sat, 03 September 2005 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Kewl, thanks for the info.

Anyone got anu ideas re the SC12 supercharger? Surely it would be low enuff pressure not to need a aftermarket puter or extra inj etc etc.

Anyone ever done this b4?

Luke
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Re: 4AGZE S/C on a 2.0ltr 3SGE Gen2 V-TIS engine & GBOX Mon, 05 September 2005 01:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
OZLAD79 wrote on Sat, 03 September 2005 19:12

Kewl, thanks for the info.

Anyone got anu ideas re the SC12 supercharger? Surely it would be low enuff pressure not to need a aftermarket puter or extra inj etc etc.

Anyone ever done this b4?

Luke


sigh... SC doesn't provide boost.
SCprovides volume.
engine not processing the air the SC pushes = boost.

you know the volumes of the SC's, and you know how fast they can spin, so why not just calculate the amount of air required and provided and go from there..
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Re: S/Cing a 2.0ltr 3SGE Gen2 ST162 Celica engine Mon, 05 September 2005 15:33 Go to previous message
Only problem is where to put the supercharger on the engine. Good luck finding the room for it!

The factory injectors are 370cc? Or 270cc? I dunno, either way they are probably more than enough for something like an SC12.
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