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Location: S.E suberbs, Vic
Registered: December 2003
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Location: eastern suburbs, melbourne
Registered: March 2005
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Re: Metal cats
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Sun, 04 September 2005 22:59
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abit off topic: how big is your exhaust?
i am getting a 20v put into my ae82 and am not sure what exhaust to put. the original is too small.
im thinking about going with a 2.5inch to the cat,leave the standard cat, then 2.25 inch to a triple flow muffler at the end. too big?
i can always change the cat at a later date.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: August 2004
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Re: Metal cats
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Sun, 04 September 2005 23:37
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A friend used a pair of giant 4.5inch ones on his car the other day, look like they flow well but im not gonna give any opinion on performance as I never drove it b4 the cat change.
The only point I want to mention is that they dont seem to have a stamp of approval on them legality wise, so perhaps they are not technically legal????
I m ay be wrong but worth looking into b4 purchase.
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Location: Melbourne
Registered: May 2002
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Re: Metal cats
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Sun, 04 September 2005 23:59
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Indeed, check that they comply with the relevant ADRs... also check with an engineer what size/type he wants, if you are going that way...
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Metal cats
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Mon, 05 September 2005 00:40
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I thought Magic Performance sold Magic Cats, which are not Metal Cats.
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Location: S.E suberbs, Vic
Registered: December 2003
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Re: Metal cats
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Mon, 05 September 2005 07:58
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illuminatus: mine will be 2.25, it's been pretty much accepted that that is the optimum size for a NA 4age, so that's what I would recomend.
CrUZsida: yes they are known as Magic cats however the one disinuishing thing about them is that they have a metal core instead of a ceramic one. So when I called them a metal cat I was refering more to the type than the brand name.
I will find out about the ADR approvals, I don't want to go to the effort of fitting this thing to be knocked back later on.
I am mainly interested in this for the compact size, the 2.15' version is only 285mm tip to tip and I need every little bit of room under my sprinter I can muster up. I am sure that this would have a limited peformance gain over a commodor cat however they are much more compact.
I was quoted $415 for the 2.25 version from a place in the S.E suberbs today.
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: Metal cats
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Mon, 05 September 2005 08:02
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Sam_Q wrote on Mon, 05 September 2005 15:58 | CrUZsida: yes they are known as Magic cats however the one disinuishing thing about them is that they have a metal core instead of a ceramic one. So when I called them a metal cat I was refering more to the type than the brand name.
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Well, that can get confusing.
Metal cat is another brand.
http://www.importbitz.com/metalcat.htm
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Location: S.E suberbs, Vic
Registered: December 2003
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Re: Metal cats
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Mon, 05 September 2005 08:09
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whoa, thanks for the correction CrUZsida, I got mixed up with the one you pointed out. I have been talking about the import bitz one. I will change my first post to suit.
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Location: Brisbane
Registered: February 2003
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Re: Metal cats
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Mon, 05 September 2005 09:31
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Sam_Q wrote on Mon, 05 September 2005 01:38 | they say on the website they are fully EPA and CARB (WTF?) compliant.
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these might be american ?
the second acronym is probably California <??> <??> Board.
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Location: S.E suberbs, Vic
Registered: December 2003
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Re: Metal cats
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Mon, 05 September 2005 09:34
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yeah I am sure your right, now the big question is are they legit for the pollution laws of this country?
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Location: S.E suberbs, Vic
Registered: December 2003
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Re: Metal cats
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Tue, 06 September 2005 12:55
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I have received an e-mail back and apparently they are EPA legal.
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Toymods Social Secretary
Location: Sydney
Registered: July 2002
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Re: Metal cats
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Tue, 06 September 2005 13:10
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im not sure that there are ADR requirements for cat converters, only EPA requirements as this is a pollution issue not a safety/build issue.....
.. but an engineer would be the best person to ask this one.
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Location: Toronto, Downtown
Registered: September 2004
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Re: Metal cats
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Tue, 06 September 2005 22:06
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well im using a stock gze cat that came with the car from japan and ive had no mention from any engineer that i need to change it
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Location: S.E suberbs, Vic
Registered: December 2003
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Re: Metal cats
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Mon, 17 October 2005 22:16
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I managed to finish installing the metal cat into my exhaust, heres how it looks:
the photos don't do it justice on just how small it is, it really is tiny. For more pics and info see my worklog.
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Location: Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered: January 2004
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Re: Metal cats
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Tue, 18 October 2005 00:03
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nice
what paint did u use on the exhaust?
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Registered: July 2005
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Re: Metal cats
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Tue, 18 October 2005 01:19
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any cheap hi temp black paint... its to hide the mild steel i guess
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Location: S.E suberbs, Vic
Registered: December 2003
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