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that 3KR.... i have pics (inc links to pics for povo modem users ;) ) Mon, 05 September 2005 01:45 Go to next message
so anyway, i went to toyota megaweb yesterday and what did i find sitting in the history garage?? that 3KR....

it's the same one that has pictures of it floating around.. but i took many hi res pics anyway, and even got one of the engine number...

it's based on an EARLY 3K block, ie engine number near the front of the block... and the slide throttles still work smoothly Wink

i'll get around to putting them up, but if anyone has suggestions for hosting LARGE pics (ie 1-2meg) please let me know...


oh, and yes, the cam cover bolts were on tight Sad

i HAVE pics Razz i just haven't uploaded them yet due to SD card memory issues...

[Updated on: Wed, 07 September 2005 07:00]

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Re: that 3KR.... i have pics Mon, 05 September 2005 02:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pffft... the thread title states "I have pics" and there are no pics!

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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Mon, 05 September 2005 05:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dude.

You can upload them using this link

http://stradlater.com/upload/

it'll then tell you the link to use to display them.

They'll be hosted there for a while until I need the space.
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Mon, 05 September 2005 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
You could try http://www.image-basket.com/

2MB limit.
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 04:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
in total there are 65meg of pics.... hmmm.. maybe i should crop them first Laughing
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 05:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
If you send them to giant_tomato@yahoo.com in blocks of no bigger than 10 megs, I can play with them and upload to strad's website.
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
I'll host them, pm sent with ftp details or get back to me for alternatives.

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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
hostest with the mostest found Smile

thanks for the offers guys...!!

(i am happy for ppl to host on their own site too... i just wanted to get the photos in real size up for reference Wink )
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 09:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
is this the blue and green one
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it probably is. why?
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
it probably is. why?
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
haha double post ummm just because its the only one i have seen pics of
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http://www.bilforumet.net/images/smilies/pics.gif
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
yes yes Razz

here's a taste...
http://www.materials.unsw.edu.au/~sford/3krsml.jpg
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gar gar i wnat it... did you touch it ? was it shiny was it cool?
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ke30king wrote on Tue, 06 September 2005 22:32

gar gar i wnat it... did you touch it ? was it shiny was it cool?

did you get on probation from touching too many things?
stop posting crap.
http://www.materials.unsw.edu.au/~sford/3krsml2.jpg
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 12:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
i had to resize them to 25% to fit on the page Razz

http://www.materials.unsw.edu.au/~sford/3krsml3.jpg

[Updated on: Tue, 06 September 2005 12:55]

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no i was put on probation for being rude to some mainlanders. im sorry for another crappy post but i am just answering your question. but anyway do you have any specs on the engine. and do you know how many were made and what they were in?
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 13:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Must these pictures cause a tent to form in a number of folks' pants?
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 13:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ke30king wrote on Tue, 06 September 2005 22:59

no i was put on probation for being rude to some mainlanders. im sorry for another crappy post but i am just answering your question. but anyway do you have any specs on the engine. and do you know how many were made and what they were in?



a smentioned earlier, it's based on an erly 3K block.
is most likely 1300cc using TOSCO 78 or 79mm single ring pistons or similar.. as for head and valves, you (and i mean YOU) can estimate the sive of the valves based on what would fit into that bore.

the dizzy and mech fuel pump have part numbers, as does the alternator, but pretty much everything else doesn't.

the injectors are tigged into the trumpets.

some part are factory made, some are custom.

not many were made, no i don't know what they were in.

and i don't give a toss why you were put on probation, i was referring to your pointless post Wink.. to which you replied with another Laughing

if you want specs, use google... afaik, the only site that mentions it is toysport, and thats as cague as it gets. you would have to contact TOMS directly i'm afraid.
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mrshin wrote on Tue, 06 September 2005 23:03

Must these pictures cause a tent to form in a number of folks' pants?


that is a distinct possibility. gives me a few ideas tho Wink and it does look pretty.

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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Tue, 06 September 2005 22:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Tue, 06 September 2005 19:50

http://www.bilforumet.net/images/smilies/pics.gif



You are teh useless without a finished poopra!!!111!1
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Wed, 07 September 2005 01:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
looked in the other thread was gonna reply in there but the computer shat itself, they are some nice pics very cool, one question though how much power doe sit put out for all the work thats done to it its still a 1.3L is it not.
Rofl at those hi res picks of arm hairs. Razz
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so is that fuel being injected into those trumpets via the blue lines?
-Calvin Smile
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Wed, 07 September 2005 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
that other thread is HEUOGE! totally killed my PC with ADSL connection.
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it killed my work connection and it shits on my home 512 adsl for speed.
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Wed, 07 September 2005 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
What's wrong with you all?

Just haven't had time to resize yet. COWARDS!
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what i opened the other one waited and loaded all the pics bar the last 5 or so which didn't seem to work, but didn't reply in there cos when it loaded the post screen it tried to reload all the images and just took too long so i replied in here Wink
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Wed, 07 September 2005 04:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Justin thats one kick arse connection!!

took me about 3 minutes to download them all... typically at 600-900k/s, but it bounced up to 2meg/s for a bit Wink



tho i am meant to have a LAN speed fibre optic connection Razz



sorry about the size (and the shitty pic quality.. no tripod and bored female friend didn't help Razz ) but there are no decent big pics around.. thought it was time to get more detail out there, esp of the oil and fuel side of it..

and it definitely is a 3K (where's that drongo that said his mate said his canary said it was a 2TG??? )


http://www.strengthenedhippo.com/picture_library/3 KR/R0011031.JPG
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i think thats them all......
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Re: that 3KR.... i (will) have pics (when i get back to hokkaido and upload them to my laptop) Wed, 07 September 2005 04:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
oh and it's 60.6meg of pics, so it's definitely going to give your modem/RAM a workout Laughing
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long love the USyd 100Mbit pipeline!!!
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Re: that 3KR.... i have pics Wed, 07 September 2005 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ed_ma61 wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 15:00

long love the USyd 100Mbit pipeline!!!

love my 100Mbit connection at home Razz
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It is so dying for a home in a KE15.....any chance you could have wheeled the suckewr out with nobody noticing? Razz
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Corona RT142 wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 11:20

looked in the other thread was gonna reply in there but the computer shat itself, they are some nice pics very cool, one question though how much power doe sit put out for all the work thats done to it its still a 1.3L is it not.
Rofl at those hi res picks of arm hairs. Razz


yup, fuel is mechanical injection, there is a linkage between the slide throttle and the metering valve at the back of the fuel injection pump (with a dial for adjustment too) so it is a simple system once set up.

considering how undersized the crank pulley is, and how oversized the alternator pulley is, and since the alternator looks to be of the normal design for that era, i would suggest you could approximate the rpm it would turn based on the alternator speed.

i would imagine it is designed for good 5 figure rpm, but that would only be a guess. with the single OHV 9000rpm was not uncommon, and with the short 73mm stroke, and the twin cam and small valves, maybe 11-12,000???

yes it would still be limited by it's capacity, and so limited to maybe 130-140nm output, but compared to the torque from the OHV, and the extrqa rpm, i think it would go nicely.

if you are only capacity restricted, and had money to burn, this is what you would do Wink

as a guesstimate of output... 130Nm @ 11000rpm = 150kw
even if it was 125Nm at 10,000, thats still = 130kw.

not shabby.
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Re: that 3KR.... i have pics Wed, 07 September 2005 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It is so dying for a home in a KE15.....any chance you could have wheeled the suckewr out with nobody noticing? Razz


it was closing time... and there was only 2 dudes there Wink

but i would also have to get it upstairs, and the girl with me was not of the "carrying engines upstairs" kind Sad

i will work out a polite way of asking "can you please remove the camshaft cover because everyone around the world is dying to see whats inside".. in japanese... and go back there later...

if i had a decent mill, and a suitably sized chunk of alloy (and the time) i would give it a go, just for kicks..


oh, the use of springs on the exhaust primaries at both the head and the collector also indicate that high frequency vibration was an issue Wink
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oldcorollas wrote on Wed, 07 September 2005 16:53


and it definitely is a 3K (where's that drongo that said his mate said his canary said it was a 2TG??? )


There was a 2TG equivelent, got pics somewhere of it in a dark green TE27. Distributor was at front of block rather than centre like the K series. Running what looked like a pair of webbers.

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ed_ma61 wrote on Tue, 06 September 2005 19:50

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You are teh useless without a finished poopra!!!111!1


justin - you will be hearing from me shortly Nod
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what is supra status? last time i saw it was a loong time ago, burning around streets of newtown Wink
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Re: that 3KR.... i have pics (inc links to pics for povo modem users ;) ) Wed, 07 September 2005 20:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Pics make me want to come to Japan and check it out!!! (if I could ever afford it...)

Thanks Stew for pics Cool
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love it...

I wonder how much HP it would have made?
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Re: that 3KR.... i have pics (inc links to pics for povo modem users ;) ) Thu, 08 September 2005 05:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
not sure we will ever know, but i guess 130-150kw.
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oldcorollas wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 14:53

not sure we will ever know, but i guess 130-150kw.


well that is certainly a freeking boatload of power for a 1.3 litre Shocked Shocked
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Re: that 3KR.... i have pics (inc links to pics for povo modem users ;) ) Thu, 08 September 2005 06:10 Go to previous message
Swoit!!!
Ta for those, Stewart.

I'd guess about 160 - 170hp odd, or about 119 - 126kW. The Cosworth BDH 1300cc running on methanol (I think ...) made 180hp so the 3K-R would be a bit down on that.

FWIW the Suzuki Gti G13B 1.3 litre we use in my racing car makes about 111kW and is limited to 10.25:1 compression, ~280deg cams, and 8000rpm.
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