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Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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4age not starting? w/ video
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Tue, 06 September 2005 10:13
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the 4age in question will not start??? it is getting petrol and is sparking but is unable to run on its own...
ill let the video do the talking
http://www.geocities.com/rthy86/Pics/000_0192.MOV
i have replaced almost all everything except for the contact point in the dizzy which i will replace one i find one.
could timing effect it?
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Tue, 06 September 2005 10:33
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deadus linkus
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Castle Hill
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August 2003
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Tue, 06 September 2005 10:38
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right click, save as.
sure its not flooded? Thats what mine was like when it was flooded after I changed my alternator, it was still sparking and all that, but the plugs were just too wet to spark when in the engine.
Try some new spark plugs,or make sure yours are completely dry, then crank it over for a little with no plugs in to get rid of the fuel, and then try with it all back together, that fixed mine.
Or maybe the ecu? When my ECU decided to die it wouldn't start either.
tried spraying something in the intake to help it start?
my mate had brand new sparkies in his engine, and somehow they fkd out, they still sparked but for some reason it just woulndt start!, just as a precaution he just replaced them and it kicked over!
Hope it is something as simple as that!
Goodluck!
Cheers.
-Whitchy-
[Updated on: Tue, 06 September 2005 10:41]
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Location:
Bottom of the hill, Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Tue, 06 September 2005 12:00
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Have you just fitted the engine and are trying to get it running or was it running and now wont start?
Have you removed the distributor at all? It could be timing or possibly fuel.
Pull a spark plug out and see if it is wet with fuel. If it is then it could be flooded as WHITCHY said. If the plugs are dry try spraying some carby cleaner or aerostart down the intake and see if it tries to fire. If it does try to fire then it is probably fuel related. Is the cold start injector working?
If the distributor has been removed has it been put back in right?
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Location:
Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Tue, 06 September 2005 12:12
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i have replaced the spark plugs but i will recheck tomorrow
dizzy cap has been replaced, as well as the ignition leads
it would spark up a bit but not enought to keep going
i just dropped the engine in and got the loom finished last weekend, was a fwd 4age out of a twinky.
one time i heared this loud bang, which im guessing it the fuel build up exploding 
the extractors are warm after a few starts
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Bottom of the hill, Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Tue, 06 September 2005 12:32
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Try turning the dizzy while someone tries to start the engine.
It sounds like the timing.
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Castle Hill, Sydney
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February 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Tue, 06 September 2005 12:48
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i got fucked around for ages with my 5mge,
timing, fuel...injectors!
when it was all fixed, it wouldnt run, after trying and double checking everything i decided to get some new spark plugs, the old ones had only been used for about 5 minutes of running!
so took old plugs out, cranked engine with no plugs, new plugs in and it ran no worries at all
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Location:
Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Wed, 07 September 2005 10:19
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ok, i replaced the spark plugs (again) made sure it wasnt flooded, also moved the dizzy cap around and changed tps (it was the wrong one )
now it almost runs! it starts up but cant keep going?
http://www.geocities.com/rthy86/Pics/000_0196.MOV
thanks 4 the input
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Location:
Bottom of the hill, Sydney
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April 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Wed, 07 September 2005 11:16
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If you move the dizzy while cranking does it change the way it tries to start. Have you got the dizzy spun as far as you can to get it to run like this. If so the dizzy could be a tooth out.
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Location:
Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Wed, 07 September 2005 11:41
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yea its a new dizzy cap, but still need to get a new contact point...
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Location:
Menai area of Sydney
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June 2003
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Wed, 07 September 2005 13:30
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Have you checked the position of the timing marks on the camwheels to make sure the cams are timed properly ?
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September 2005
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Wed, 07 September 2005 13:52
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If you are getting fuel and enough spark the only things that can be wrong are..... not sparking at the right time ie ignition timing.
or your cam timing is incorrect 
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Location:
Lara, Vic
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February 2005
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Wed, 07 September 2005 23:34
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fuel pump or pressure regulator?
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Location:
Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered:
January 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Thu, 08 September 2005 03:08
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haven't check the cam timing yet
ill have a look when i get home
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Location:
NSW, East Coast
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July 2003
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Thu, 08 September 2005 03:52
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| rthy wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 13:08 |
haven't check the cam timing yet
ill have a look when i get home
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In all seriousness the cam timing would've been he first place id start in this situation,
Especially if it sounded chocked like yours is.
Cheers
Steve
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Location:
Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:09
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im ganna get a mobile mech down, the 4ac was fun to play with but the 4age is actually worth something
cheers
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Location:
Melbourne - NthSubs
Registered:
January 2004
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Re: 4age not starting? w/ video
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Sat, 17 September 2005 05:01
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well the mobile mech checked it out and couldn't get it running...
i just got it to idle at 200rpm this morning....
http://www.geocities.com/rthy86/Pics/000_0202.MOV
i changed over the coil and ignitor
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