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Thu, 08 September 2005 07:37
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I'm wanting to buy an early 80's rwd corolla, a ke70/ae71 to be exact. In the near future I wish to convert it to a 4a-g. I know it will be easier to convert an ae71 to 4a-g, but I'm finding it hard to track down a good ae71 for cheap, where as there are endless amounts of cheap ke70's. So what I'm asking is. Do you think it's worth using the ke70 as the base for a 4a-g conversion? Is the extra effort worth it in the end for price?
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Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:06
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if u get a ke70 get a late model 84-85 manual cs model with hydraulic clutch, then u use a ae71/ae86 t50 gbox, ae71/ae86 4a crossmember...
should all just bolt up, but just incase try to get a ae71 t50 and crossmember
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December 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:18
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Are the newer ke70's unleaded? because I imagine it would require a bit of work to convert one to run unleaded once a 4a-g is put into place.
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Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:19
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um,... i never really seen a leaded ke70... anyways the "newer" ones should be on unleaded anyways
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December 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:27
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Ok, Thanks for your help I'll look into it 
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Melbourne - NthSubs
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:36
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yea im looking to get another ae71 my self...
it would be best if u get a ae71 manual to make things easy
but a late model ke70 shouldnt be that hard, just might cost a bit more with love  
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December 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:43
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Lol, I would love to get an ae71, but they seem to be hard to find. I went looking around at car yards and they say they just sell them straight to the wreckers and the only place to get them is the trading post. but i've been watching the trading post for awhile and havn't seen a cheap one yet. I could try the wreckers I guess, but from what I'm told they are expencive.
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Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:47
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pick a part sell shells for $500 with wats left of it... there was 5 or so ae71 MANUALS in the past month... i was to lazy to get one or at least the gboxs 
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Brisbane
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December 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:50
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So you think it would be better to get a shell from the wreckers? as long as its cheap enough...
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Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 10:56
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yea wreckers is ur best bet, most of the ones they had where pretty complete at the time they crushed them...
i guess if ur going to do the conversion as a ongoing one then a ke70 is a good second option, just use the 4k until u get all the parts to do the convo
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December 2004
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Gold Coast
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June 2003
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 13:00
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It's not too hard really.
I've just converted my auto KE70 to manual 4age. I already had an AE86 crossmember for the engine to bolt into. To mount the gearbox I had to elongate two of the holes in the gearbox crossmember to make it fit, but this may be different if the car is manual. You will also need to drill some holes in the firewall to put the clutch master but theres a spot there where it fits perfectly. Then all you need is an AE71 tailshaft and your set. The rest is just fiddly stuff like wiring and fuel.
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I supported Toymods
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Frankston, Victoria
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April 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 13:37
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Currently in the middle of a KE70-4AGE conversion at the moment, really the only difference is having to get an AE71 engine crossmember, gearbox crossmember, tailshaft, t40/t50 gearbox, and complete hydraulic clutch setup, but overall all of that shit has costed me just over $200 and considering I bought the almost mint KE70 for $300, it works out alot cheaper than buying a $2000 AE71  .
mumblezzz can you please take a photo and post it of the exact location you mounted your clutch master cylinder? I'm a bit confused as to that one
Cheers,
Kev.
Edit: (Oh and by the way, Leo man, I think your KE70 was one of a kind, KE70s in no way come with hydraulic clutches, yours must have had a hydraulic conversion done at some stage, my current KE70 is the last line of KE70 made (1985) and it has cable clutch. My last KE70 was 1984 and also had a cable clutch.
[Updated on: Thu, 08 September 2005 13:39]
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Melbourne - NthSubs
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January 2004
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Re: 4a-g conversion for ke70 or ae71.
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Thu, 08 September 2005 13:55
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nah, im crazy, just remembered it was in the ae71 that i had the hydraulic clutch whhoooopppp....
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