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Location: Rockhampton QLD
Registered: July 2004
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4age rwd water pump
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Tue, 13 September 2005 02:35
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hi, i need to replace the front half of my water pump. its on a jap rwd ae86 engine. What fits? ae92 looks the same, ae82 looks different and i havent seen a 4ac one.
urgent, thanks.
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Location: Brisbane / Gold Coast
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Tue, 13 September 2005 03:38
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4AC will bolt right on.
Done it a couple of times with mine.
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Location: Rockhampton QLD
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Tue, 13 September 2005 03:42
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Thanks bill! the old one cracked after 1000km's
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Location: Sydney (Campbelltown...!)
Registered: December 2003
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Wed, 14 September 2005 07:47
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fwd 4age one will do 4ac ones with fans that bolt on are to long and youll find that the pullet will stick out
both ae82 and 92 ones are the same
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Location: Rockhampton QLD
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 15 September 2005 00:32
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cheers mate just found out today . ae82 item looks the go. You wouldnt know if all the crank pulleys are interchagable for 4ages? ie. 100kw fits rwd 96kw?
thanks
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Location: Brisbane / Gold Coast
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 15 September 2005 03:32
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86DRFT wrote on Thu, 15 September 2005 10:32 | cheers mate just found out today . ae82 item looks the go. You wouldnt know if all the crank pulleys are interchagable for 4ages? ie. 100kw fits rwd 96kw?
thanks
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FWD & RWD pulleys have different offset, as the FWD & RWD pumps are different lengths as well.
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Location: Rockhampton QLD
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 15 September 2005 04:02
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i tried the 4ac pump, it was too long, i think the ae92 pump was too long aswell but it also had a different fan hub. i'll let you know how the ae82 pump fits tommorrow, im starting to think it has more to do with smallport/bigport rather than rwd/fwd. if the ae82 pump is a winner, i'm inclined to think i could use an ae82 crank pulley aswell? maybe my engine is mismatched .
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Location: Sydney NSW
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 15 September 2005 04:27
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So, I take it that if you have a RWD Bigport 4AGE (eg JDM 86) then a 4ac pump will fit, otherwise a FWD pump is the shot?
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Location: Rockhampton QLD
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 15 September 2005 04:34
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well the 4ac pump i ordered was too long, as was the smallport jobbie, so ive ordered an ae82 pump. going by the pics its a perfect fit, but ill confirm it tomorrow.
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Location: Montrose, VIC
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 15 September 2005 12:40
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Grab your old pump, go to the parts store, and check the potential purchase before taking it home.
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Location: Rockhampton QLD
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 15 September 2005 13:38
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Yeah silly me, i was so confident. i took it in yesterday to compare with what they had, have to wait till tomorrow to check the ae82 pulley though. thanks for the advice.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: September 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 15 September 2005 22:56
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Why didn't you order the RWD ae86 water pump? I got one a couple days ago from toyota.
Eddie.
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Location: Brisbane / Gold Coast
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Fri, 16 September 2005 04:13
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Mate there's only three types of water pump.
FWD, RWD, and 20v.
The FWD ones are shorter than the RWD, not too sure about the 20v ones but they're slightly different AFAIK.
The AE-82 & AE-92 ones are the same.
You can use either a FWD or RWD pump on either a FWD or RWD engine, you just have to use the right FWD or RWD pulley so it all lines up.
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Location: Rockhampton QLD
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Fri, 16 September 2005 08:07
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Big T wrote on Fri, 16 September 2005 08:56 | Why didn't you order the RWD ae86 water pump? I got one a couple days ago from toyota.
Eddie.
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i went in there the other day and i was told i cant get them anymore.
As for the rwd/fwd thing, seeing how much experience you have Bill and how much i dont have, i'll take you're word for it . I dont know the history behind my engine, i was told its an ae86 rwd bigport but for all i know it could just be a fwd engine with a rwd manifold.
Thanks for the help
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Location: Canberra
Registered: November 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Sat, 17 September 2005 09:16
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Im building a rear wheel drive 20v , and i tried to re use the water pump cause its almost new but it bottoms out on the rwd water pump mount, so don't use one of them! i need a fwd one also.
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Location: Tasmania
Registered: May 2002
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: June 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 06 October 2005 03:30
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86DRFT wrote on Fri, 16 September 2005 17:37 |
Big T wrote on Fri, 16 September 2005 08:56 | Why didn't you order the RWD ae86 water pump? I got one a couple days ago from toyota.
Eddie.
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i went in there the other day and i was told i cant get them anymore.
As for the rwd/fwd thing, seeing how much experience you have Bill and how much i dont have, i'll take you're word for it . I dont know the history behind my engine, i was told its an ae86 rwd bigport but for all i know it could just be a fwd engine with a rwd manifold.
Thanks for the help
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Did u try ask for a RWD pump off a 4AC motor?
i dunno wha to do on my engine i have all the RWD bits and FWD bits so i can mix n match still building it
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Location: Sydney NSW
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 06 October 2005 03:43
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RWD pump is still available, i just bought one last week. $80.00
Listed as the pump for AE86 4AGEU.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: June 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 06 October 2005 13:12
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cannonball wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 13:13 | RWD pump is still available, i just bought one last week. $80.00
Listed as the pump for AE86 4AGEU.
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what should i use a FWD pump and pulley with thermo fan
or RWD pump and pulley with thermo fan
or RWD pump, pulley viscous hub fan
or RWD pump, pulley thermo fan and viscous hub fan?
ill be using the RWD water outlet.. will i need a RWD alternator bracket??? or 4afe braket? help
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Location: Sydney NSW
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 06 October 2005 13:31
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You'll need the pump appropriate for your block i think. Someone with a bit more experience here will probably help better.
I dont think you will fit both a thermo fan and OEM fan, and there is probably no point running both. The benefit of running a thermo is that it only runs when necessary, and theoretically that is when the car is stopped or at low speed.
About the alternator brackets, dunno, never been down that path, but Im sure the Billzilla site has info on it, or the other site he has links to (cant remember the guys name) HAve a good read of both these sites, there full of good stuff.
Hope you get her back on the road soon Kaan
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Location: Rockhampton QLD
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 06 October 2005 14:05
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Kaan wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 13:30 |
86DRFT wrote on Fri, 16 September 2005 17:37 |
Big T wrote on Fri, 16 September 2005 08:56 | Why didn't you order the RWD ae86 water pump? I got one a couple days ago from toyota.
Eddie.
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i went in there the other day and i was told i cant get them anymore.
As for the rwd/fwd thing, seeing how much experience you have Bill and how much i dont have, i'll take you're word for it . I dont know the history behind my engine, i was told its an ae86 rwd bigport but for all i know it could just be a fwd engine with a rwd manifold.
Thanks for the help
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Did u try ask for a RWD pump off a 4AC motor?
i dunno wha to do on my engine i have all the RWD bits and FWD bits so i can mix n match still building it
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yeah, i tried it, it was too long. ae82 bigport fitted mine.
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Location: Sydney
Registered: September 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 06 October 2005 14:07
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FWIW... the part numbers for a 4ac water pump and the ae86 4age pump are different. This might be the problem people are running into when ordering them.
Eddie.
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: June 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Thu, 06 October 2005 22:18
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cannonball wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 23:01 | You'll need the pump appropriate for your block i think. Someone with a bit more experience here will probably help better.
I dont think you will fit both a thermo fan and OEM fan, and there is probably no point running both. The benefit of running a thermo is that it only runs when necessary, and theoretically that is when the car is stopped or at low speed.
About the alternator brackets, dunno, never been down that path, but Im sure the Billzilla site has info on it, or the other site he has links to (cant remember the guys name) HAve a good read of both these sites, there full of good stuff.
Hope you get her back on the road soon Kaan
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Its on the Road i live in sa though, im just getting preped up for the 4age conversion... whats the billzilla site ?
thanks canno!
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Location: Sydney NSW
Registered: July 2004
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Location: Adelaide
Registered: June 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Fri, 07 October 2005 09:42
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thanks mate i will read em
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Location: Sydney
Registered: November 2003
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Sun, 09 October 2005 01:40
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will a RWD 4AGEU water pump be suitable for a RWD20v conversoin? i think mine has a 4AC one but its 2nd hand id rather be safe with a new one and put it on while the engines on a stand.
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Location: Sydney NSW
Registered: July 2004
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Re: 4age rwd water pump
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Sun, 09 October 2005 05:33
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I could be wrong, but i think the 20v came in FWD format only, so you would probably want a FWD waterpump.
I could be wrong though. As said above, read those 2 sites, heaps of info about this subject there.
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