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w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Fri, 16 September 2005 22:23
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Hi Guys was wondering if anyone can help me out,
Ive made up engine mounts and a gearbox crossmember to put a 2jzge/w58-5speed into my 260z,
Just say at some later date i decided i wanted to install a
1jzgte, would my engine mounts (the ones i made to put the 2jzge into the 260z) still work with the 1jzgte engine???
Or,
If i wanted to use a different gearbox with the 2jzge, like the r154 or the Getrag, would my gearbox crossmember still work???
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Fri, 16 September 2005 22:53
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| aussie260z wrote on Sat, 17 September 2005 08:23 |
Hi Guys was wondering if anyone can help me out,
Ive made up engine mounts and a gearbox crossmember to put a 2jzge/w58-5speed into my 260z,
Just say at some later date i decided i wanted to install a
1jzgte, would my engine mounts (the ones i made to put the 2jzge into the 260z) still work with the 1jzgte engine???
Or,
If i wanted to use a different gearbox with the 2jzge, like the r154 or the Getrag, would my gearbox crossmember still work???
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your 2JZ-GE mounts will work fine on the 1JZ-GTE (turbo etc clearances permitting).
You will need a different gearbox crossmember if you change from a W58 to a R154 or V160/1 (as well as other work I suspect due to the large size increase in them!).
Cheers
Wilbo
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sat, 17 September 2005 08:41
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I know they are fatter, much fatter, but the gearbox mounts of the Getrag and the w58 from behind a 2jz looked really similar to me, and they both go in the same car,
How different can they be???
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May 2002
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sat, 17 September 2005 09:09
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| aussie260z wrote on Sat, 17 September 2005 18:41 |
I know they are fatter, much fatter, but the gearbox mounts of the Getrag and the w58 from behind a 2jz looked really similar to me, and they both go in the same car,
How different can they be???
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Honestly I don't know exactly how different they are, but to be honest I suspect the gearbox crossmember will be the least of your worries if you decide to convert from a W58 to a V160/1 
The sheer dimensions of the gearbox are on a whole new scale in comparison to a W58
Cheers
Wilbo
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I supported Toymods
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Australia
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November 2003
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sat, 17 September 2005 11:32
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They are about the same width.
But the V160 is about 2-3 inches taller, and the width goes back longer (if that last bit made sense)
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sat, 17 September 2005 11:40
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| CrUZsida wrote on Sat, 17 September 2005 21:32 |
They are about the same width.
But the V160 is about 2-3 inches taller, and the width goes back longer (if that last bit made sense)
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please excuse the OT, but i think it could be good if one toymods meet, we could get a lineup of all the different gearboxes around.... from early K's to the getrags.. and get pics to show the size differences between them....
just a thought..
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sat, 17 September 2005 14:34
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| oldcorollas wrote on Sat, 17 September 2005 21:40 |
| CrUZsida wrote on Sat, 17 September 2005 21:32 |
They are about the same width.
But the V160 is about 2-3 inches taller, and the width goes back longer (if that last bit made sense)
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please excuse the OT, but i think it could be good if one toymods meet, we could get a lineup of all the different gearboxes around.... from early K's to the getrags.. and get pics to show the size differences between them....
just a thought..
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Great idea
Btw for shits and giggles, here are some pics of Norbies V161...tis massif.
That is a W58 rear housing in the last pic...
Cheers
Wilbo
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Vancouver
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June 2004
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sat, 17 September 2005 23:27
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Daymn! The rear housing on the getrag is like twice as big!
Good luck norbs - you're gunna need it! 
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May 2002
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sun, 18 September 2005 00:36
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Luck? Bah! I need a new transmission tunnel, that's what I need.
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Brisbane
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November 2002
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sun, 18 September 2005 03:40
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Sucess is not about luck, it is about pain and money 
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sun, 18 September 2005 08:01
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Didn't Nick or Stenno have a nice pic on www.turbosupras.com with all the Getrag measurements? I just remember the Getrag being a fuckload taller than the other boxes and more bulky along its whole length.
There is also an old pic with the comparative dimensions of the W58 and R154.
The 3 gearboxes are suffieciently different such that I could only imagine you would need to make a significant modification to the tunnel to fit a V160/1 compared to a W58. The Xmember may not need that much modification to work. Of course, I haven't done it so I can't be 100% sure.
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Montrose, VIC
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May 2002
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sun, 18 September 2005 11:15
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as I remember, Zed tranny tunnels are a bit on the small side, so best be handy with a rather large hammer
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May 2002
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Sun, 18 September 2005 21:18
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Um.... thanks? 
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Mon, 19 September 2005 00:46
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Avast!!! I be telling the Mitsu box to walk ye short plank!
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September 2005
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Mon, 19 September 2005 06:03
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could jsut ignore that crappy box on the left. I figured you guys might just want a pic of it. Guess I was a little bored
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Mon, 19 September 2005 06:51
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the mitsu box looks like T50 size??
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Mon, 19 September 2005 23:37
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| oldcorollas wrote on Mon, 19 September 2005 16:51 |
the mitsu box looks discardable??
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Fixed.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Wed, 28 September 2005 07:10
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| gianttomato wrote on Tue, 20 September 2005 09:37 |
| oldcorollas wrote on Mon, 19 September 2005 16:51 |
the mitsu box looks discardable??
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Fixed.
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heh heh, so are T50's.... K50's don't even make good doorstops..
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Brisbane
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Re: w58, r154 & the Getrag
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Wed, 28 September 2005 08:36
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Nothing has been figured out yet. The Getrag is sitting on my garage floor looking big and heavy - and it will remain there until my uber tractor motor is built for the Celica, which should be some time in 2012.
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