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AE111 Levins thoughts experiences anyone actually driven one
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Mon, 19 September 2005 05:58
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Well the other thread has gone well and truly off track. So i'd thought i'd start a fresh. ATM this is the leadin car as they seem to fit the bill of flying under the theft radar whilst being adequately fast and with a potential for more in the future.
The specific car that i looked at had 26,000kms on the clock was lowered and had aftermarket 15 inch mags with brand new michelin runner.
The seats were fantastic big enough for me just which means they'll hold me in well. Car has most of the mod cons cd, airbags, aircon, power windows etc.
It is a BZG so it only has the 5 speed manual with lsd. Its silver and haven't not seen too many others i can't judge on the muffler but it didn't look like a factory one. The main ? over the muffler comes from the toms enhanced sticker on the rear i know that AL Palmer fitted the lowered springs and rims so that ain't it so its either the muffler or a ricer owned the car in japan.
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Re: AE111 Levins thoughts experiences anyone actually driven one
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Mon, 19 September 2005 06:08
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Yeah I have.
I've driven the black trueno on church st parra. It looks really nice outside but as you go inside it looks cheap. Feels like a any other corolla new or old. Drove like an 100KW 4AG got bored of it and lost intrest straight away.
It's not worth the 14-16k asking price. They used to go for 10-12k at UAS castle hill. Still not a bad alternative
Have you considered Honda Civic VTiR? It has Alot more features and higher resale value
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Mon, 19 September 2005 06:19
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Yeah the civics are nice especially the earlier hatch, the later coupe/really just a 2 door sedan is very plain (though that could be an advantage parkign at the station) to look at where as the levin atleast looks pretty good. If i was gonna go honda i'd go the whole hog and get the Integra Type R.
I am still yet to drive the levin and i guess that'll tell whether or not i really want the thing.
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Mon, 19 September 2005 06:22
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how much will the levin cost?
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Mon, 19 September 2005 06:25
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Around 15K. SW20R thanks for the info how long ago did you drive one because i was only aware that they were just given approval to import them.
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Re: AE111 Levins thoughts experiences anyone actually driven one
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Mon, 19 September 2005 08:07
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Thanks for the info, i'll see what they are like to drive if it ain't my cup of tea i've lost nothing so meh i walk away and look for another car. 
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Mon, 19 September 2005 09:40
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| SW20R wrote on Mon, 19 September 2005 16:29 |
had no torque at all
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Don't 20 valves have fck all of nothing in the torque department? Did you actually drive it hard or just cruise around?
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Mon, 19 September 2005 10:27
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I drove it how I would normally drive a car in the city. It was a main rd so I was shifting at 2/3KRPM max, I did rev it to redline the first few gears but yeah. No wow factor since I have Turbo MR2 
it did have nice pick up though very responsive. but the chassis just feels heavy
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Mon, 19 September 2005 11:36
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I have a Civic VTIR hatch and have always wondered how these things performed and handled in comparision to the Honda. 
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Mon, 19 September 2005 14:48
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Well on that vtec webpage with clips of diff cars going against vtec cars.
The ae111 beat the EK vtir.
ae111 alot rarer, and I like the looks, I'd rather one of those over a civic. Though the EK coupe is nice lookin as said.
Get a ae101 gze trueno... Look nice too and more punch.
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Mon, 19 September 2005 23:04
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Mon, 19 September 2005 16:25 |
Around 15K.
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15gees for that? bro you could do so much better.
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Mon, 19 September 2005 23:18
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Tue, 20 September 2005 09:04 |
| Corona RT142 wrote on Mon, 19 September 2005 16:25 |
Around 15K.
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15gees for that? bro you could do so much better.
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Lol rob, at the moment i like the car but it is more my parents that would prefer me to get the car over others i have considered. It all comes down to the test drive though, if the car isn't fun or realtively quick then i doubt i'd buy it. It'd also be pretty weird driving it compared to the corona peak torque at 2800rpm vs like 6500rpm.
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Mon, 19 September 2005 23:37
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punch your parents in the urethra, then buy a postie to ride to the station and buy something cool.
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Re: AE111 Levins thoughts experiences anyone actually driven one
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Mon, 19 September 2005 23:48
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In reference to your avatar you have sunk my battleship.  I am still not sure on the actual price of the car just going on an estimate from the week previous. I'll probably be looking at going for a testdrive in say two weeks and then make my mind up if i want to get one.
By the sounds of things though it may not be my cup of tea, i prefer a car that has a little kick down low as generally i spend a lot of time driving it round town, but would like it also to open up on the weekends.
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Tue, 20 September 2005 02:10
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this is the last piece of advice im going to freely give you.
stick a sharp screwdriver into your own urethra and dont ever consider buying a car ever again. 
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Tue, 20 September 2005 02:16
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| rob_RA40 wrote on Tue, 20 September 2005 12:10 |
this is the last piece of advice im going to freely give you.
stick a sharp screwdriver into your own urethra and dont ever consider buying a car ever again.
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WTF, i love WAGONIST's caldina but i wouldn't be able to afford the conversion it needs for like 2 years after purchase and i don't feel like driving a diesel around for that time. Not to mention that majority of my driving is short trips which is not ideal for a diesel powered car.
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Tue, 20 September 2005 02:24
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note the smiley darlin'
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Tue, 20 September 2005 22:40
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These are a great car to drive!
Needs to be driven in a different way. Those used to Turbo's wont like them. Like any car you need to change your driving style from one car to another.
If you buy a standard car...You can always set it up to suit yourself. Its the best way.
Very unique too!
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Wed, 21 September 2005 00:58
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Here's what you need! SUGOI NE!
http://www.adelaidejap.com.au/toyota.htm
4AGUE 20 Valve black top TURBO
Apexi KKK turbo kit fitted, AM clutch and LSD FWD gearbox
$2850
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Wed, 21 September 2005 01:02
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Hehe thanks, that'd help it move along a lot better, but not just yet and I was thinking if i got it i'd go the NA route we'll see. There is plenty of space in front of the extractors for a turbo setup.
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Wed, 21 September 2005 09:42
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One of the girls that I'm staying with lets me drive it around town.
The 6speed, you have to rev it up just like a 4ag. When cruizing the car has no balls.
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Wed, 21 September 2005 09:45
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| Dorio86 wrote on Wed, 21 September 2005 19:42 |
One of the girls that I'm staying with lets me drive it around town.
The 6speed, you have to rev it up just like a 4ag. When cruizing the car has no balls.
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Rev it up like a 4ag it is one
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Wed, 21 September 2005 09:47
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Sorry, drive the 20v like you drive the 16v.
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Wed, 21 September 2005 14:25
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| Dorio86 wrote on Wed, 21 September 2005 19:47 |
Sorry, drive the 20v like you drive the 16v.
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lol it still the same engine the extra 4 valves aren't worth the effort
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Wed, 21 September 2005 15:39
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forget the 111, the 20V is a heavy car sucks.
the GZE earlier rollas are nicer, but get an AWD one if any.. no point turboing it and making it undriveable.
get the dina and do the conversion.. it's a nicer car anyway..
or start saving for mine.. in two years.. maybe around $30K
or just get any car.. anything good will get keyed/stolen from the station anyway.. if yu continue to live in a shit area, expect yur shit to get trashed (my brothers KE30 was stolen 3 times from C'town station)
personally.. and truthfully... i would be saving the money on a new car and moving out of campbelltown... as far away as i could afford.... simply because you will have a beter life in the long run because of it..
move to eastern suburbs, or newtown or annandale etc etc.. and spend the 20K on fun instead of a car.. the car will always lose value..
anyway, briefly back on topic...
the 20V's i test drove here really really sucked  i was so dissapointed i considered buying a subaru
the GZE are ok, but only cos they are not slow as dogs balls... i would ONLY get a 4WD version tho.
Cya, Stewart
ps.. save your money ... spend it on a better life
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Wed, 21 September 2005 23:38
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Well i am gonna be in campbelltown for at least the next 5 and a half years due to uni so that ain't really an option. 
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Wed, 21 September 2005 23:46
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Tue, 20 September 2005 09:48 |
By the sounds of things though it may not be my cup of tea, i prefer a car that has a little kick down low as generally i spend a lot of time driving it round town, but would like it also to open up on the weekends.
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If u want some low down kick why r u lookin at a high revving 1.6lt engine ....
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Wed, 21 September 2005 23:46
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Corona corona corona......
When i read you were thinking of buying the AE111, i thought to myself, Geez, you may as well go out and buy a Civic, and while your at it, paint it man salmon pink. Then i read you actually considered buying one!!!
No offence to you dude, but every civic owner I have know is a complete space cadet that thinks their a legend in their own lunchtime.
Mark my words, you WILL get bored of the AE111 before you know it. As Oldcorollas says, they suck.
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Wed, 21 September 2005 23:53
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Lol well i'll see what happens when i drive it and maybe see how much the 180sx is and when it will be available. But still even that is an 11 year old car and i wouldn't mind something a touch newer.
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Mon, 03 October 2005 23:37
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Well went on saturday to testdrive the car. With the lowered springs and low profile tyres the car is very stiff (i can live with that).
Anyway it seems to go alright but as my mum was in the back seat i didn't get to open it up and find out and being a double demerit weekend didn't help either. Was a bit hard in a suburban area as 5krpm in second gear is around 70kmph and most streets were 50 or sixty so it was a quick blat then back off to the speed limit.
It definately lacks punch down low especially just rolling round a corner then giving it.
So heres the problem, whilst i am not 100% certain on the car, its very nice and all but i want something a fair chunk quicker, my mum and uncle love the car. Trying to convince them that I would prefer something with a bit more balls is either like talking to a brick wall or starting another whole dilemma about not needing a fast car for the road etc.
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Tue, 04 October 2005 04:54
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Geez, sounds like turmoil in Crumbletown......your mum is seeing your uncle and the AE111 isn't quick enough.
Heres the plan:
Your a big boy now, get what ever car you like. Just say "Mummy, you can't tell me what to do, I am a big boy now and if I want to drive a turbo car" *insert crying here* Mummy will surely let you get what ever car you like after an outburst like that.
Film your Mummy and Uncle together and use this as blackmail, your uncle will buy you what ever car you want and Mummy will be making sammiches when ever you get hungry.
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Tue, 04 October 2005 05:01
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im currently having the same prob (i mainly want something slow in rwd) but my oldies are pushing me to get some fwd newer yet more boring POS
i cut them a deal though i get this car drive it like a granny for 6 months sell it then import something i really want 
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Tue, 04 October 2005 05:02
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Lol, my mum is very much a nag and worries way too much, ie she is always concerned about the what ifs in life. No matter what situation there is she'll always imagine the worst and take it as truth.
She sees the levin as a nice little car that i can't get into too much trouble with. Meh it'll take a while but i'll manage to talk her around to letting me ge a turbo, getting them to even look at the GT4 was a triumph.
As for my uncle it'll be easy enough to sway him, he got banned from driving his sons modded EB xr6 cos he kept dropping heli's in it .
IMO the levin is a nice car, but as already said by the others above it lacks torque and hence becomes very plain and mundane to drive, and i don't want to ringing the cars neck to extract perfromanc out of it.
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Tue, 04 October 2005 06:36
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what about a corona??
i mean new corona
actually, i saw a pretty sexy carina the other day, 2 door, nice front and back....
the corollas are, and always have been, underpowered and shiteful for handling.
coronas are bigger with a little more torque, but still shopping trolleys..
carinas are a bit nicer, caldinas are also good, but any normal model is pretty unexciting to drive...
turbo + lowered + expensive tyres = exciting car.
problem with these less than 10 year old cars.. is that they are heavy and performance is almost always uninspiring..
wht not look to a turbo suby wagon or forester, they are cheap as chips, and common enough to be serviced (or a B4)
if all you want is grunt, get a commonwhore. they are good bang for buck.. they just suck.
or better yet, buy a cheap shitter, and save your money to build a proper car whenyou can afford to insure it (ie when you are in your mid 20's )
spend your money on having fun, not on highly depreciating assets
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Tue, 04 October 2005 07:10
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Buy an AE101 trueno or levin. id definately go trueno, semi-similar looking body and size, but one comes with a gze... thee is the extra punch you were looking for down low.
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Tue, 04 October 2005 07:57
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Old corollas, Caldina's are awesome but the only turbo petrol one i have seen is for sale but in brisbane. The suby's are a prick for insurance thank you ram raiders the forester's are a bit better but require a few more mods to get them cornering and going fast as they were detuned and obviously have softer higher suspension.
And in any case if i was to get one i'd buy a runaround for a couple years continue to save and buy one off the reli's as i know how they have been driven, two options in this case would be a MY2004 WRX, or 2005 Forrester XT turbo.
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Tue, 04 October 2005 12:44
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| SW20R wrote on Mon, 19 September 2005 16:08 |
Have you considered Honda Civic VTiR? It has Alot more features and higher resale value
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and a LOT less unique
and a shittier engine
go the 111, love that 20v sound!
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Tue, 04 October 2005 12:49
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| SW20R wrote on Wed, 21 September 2005 10:58 |
Here's what you need! SUGOI NE!
http://www.adelaidejap.com.au/toyota.htm
4AGUE 20 Valve black top TURBO
Apexi KKK turbo kit fitted, AM clutch and LSD FWD gearbox
$2850
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fark what a rip. you can get a half cut for 150 bucks more!
then you get the whole loom/ecu and all those other OEM goodies!
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Re: AE111 Levins thoughts experiences anyone actually driven one
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Tue, 04 October 2005 13:14
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Not really a turbo kit like that would cost upto 2k alone Garth
well worth buying the ecu/loom to suite!
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