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TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Tue, 20 September 2005 22:24
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Anyone setup a ma70 for the track. (or know of one). If so, what spec's are they, what performance, and what times please?
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Adelaide, SA
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May 2002
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Wed, 05 October 2005 01:53
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I haven't done it, and generally I guess people think they're a bit fat for the track but there were ma70's in Group A racing in the late eighties. I'm guessing a google search in the specs of these cars would yeild a good deal of info.
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Sydney
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Thu, 06 October 2005 00:55
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here is one:
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Thu, 06 October 2005 04:16
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Thu, 06 October 2005 10:55 |
here is one:
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Thats in sports sedan category correct?
So is it still running a 7mgte or has it been replaced by a big fuck off 6.0L chevy which is very common in that category. Would be cool to find out, most of those cars sadly are merely a fibreglass shell and share very little in common with the road counterparts and hence most of the setup on it probably wouldn't help.
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melbourne
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September 2005
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Sun, 09 October 2005 21:32
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yeah, this sports sedan supras has been around for some years. Pretty sure it was an old thunder sport car, painted red & silver. Its a big V8 with space frame chassis & fibre glass shell as you suggest, nice race car. Im looking at road simular cars with oroginal chassis's as i wanna set mine up for sprints.
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Colac, Victoria
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May 2002
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Sun, 16 October 2005 09:24
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They also took a class victory at the sanddown 500 , in 89 , i believe ..
So you can set one up to be track compitent , just got to put them on a Diet
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Mon, 17 October 2005 06:25
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| gianttomato wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 15:12 |
Recent historic meet at Eastern Creek
Probably pretty heavy. Can be done of course but you'll need to lighten it significantly. Probably not hard given the seats weigh some ridiculous amount each.
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GT that cars is horn! I didn't think there were any historic/group c supras.
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Mon, 17 October 2005 08:10
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it also looks airborne 
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Mon, 17 October 2005 09:01
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Sourced from Autopics. Bathurst 1991.
Fitzgerald and Grice won the Bathurst 12 hour in this car.
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Mon, 17 October 2005 10:11
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See on that webpage the Ae86 levins in the group A directory ?
Didnt someone off here end up with one of the ones the toyota team brought out as a road car ?
My engineer has some of the newsprint memorabilia re the ma70 winning races ..
he may have worked on them , I wouldnt be surprised, knowing who he's wirked with , race car team wise
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c'town, NSW
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Tue, 18 October 2005 03:44
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| gianttomato wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 18:55 |
And another....
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love that pic, dattos toyos and mitsus all havin a go.
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Toowoomba, QLD
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January 2005
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Wed, 19 October 2005 11:17
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As far as I am aware, all four of the Group A Supras survive. I have the ex Peter Williamson MA61, John Smith still has his ex TTA MA70 (the white car in the photos above), the Gary Willmington car (the red one)is still around and the other one (Peter Fitzgerald's car?) is I think down in Tasmania as I bought the original Motec from it a while ago from down there. All beautifully built cars, but as you say all too heavy to be outright contenders, and had to rely on reliability to get placings.
JA
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Newcastle
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Thu, 20 October 2005 04:18
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Historic racing is a beautiful thing
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Fri, 21 October 2005 00:58
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| ART Racing wrote on Wed, 19 October 2005 20:47 |
As far as I am aware, all four of the Group A Supras survive. I have the ex Peter Williamson MA61, John Smith still has his ex TTA MA70 (the white car in the photos above), the Gary Willmington car (the red one)is still around and the other one (Peter Fitzgerald's car?) is I think down in Tasmania as I bought the original Motec from it a while ago from down there. All beautifully built cars, but as you say all too heavy to be outright contenders, and had to rely on reliability to get placings.
JA
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The odd group A engine survives as well. This is currently residing in SA...
http://www.turbosupras.com/pages/en/pages/members/ ma70/ntsemitsidis.htm
Very tasty 7m!!
The closest I'll ever get to a Group A MA70 is my tamiya scale model of one!!
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Fri, 21 October 2005 10:42
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I've done some hunting recently, and the Gary Willmington car has definitely vanished from the scene. Spoke to Gary about it last week and even he cant find it. All my memories and recent discussions confirms they were under-developed as they were never considered an outright contender in GpA. They were far too heavy compared with other turbo cars like the Sierras or Skylines In GpA , minimal lightening was allowed, so if was built real heavy, thats what you got stuck with. Much as I like old Toyotas (and have 2 GP. A sprinters), my Cosworth Sierra would blow the doors off the best Supra ever built.
The advice therefore, is do whatever you can to get out the weight.
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Kilsyth, Melbourne
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September 2004
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Fri, 28 October 2005 11:12
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| gianttomato wrote on Mon, 17 October 2005 19:01 |
Sourced from Autopics. Bathurst 1991.
Fitzgerald and Grice won the Bathurst 12 hour in this car.
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the way bathurst should be now 
it needs variety
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Wed, 16 November 2005 00:31
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Wo got any video footage of these? I was too young to know
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Wed, 16 November 2005 01:17
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They were very poorly covered even back then. If you weren't in the top 10 (or a high profile driver out of the top 10 for whatever reason) then coverage amounted to almost zero.
If they were still circulating late in the race, the commentary team might do a little 2 minute vignette on the car, but that was the sum of it. This was when i could be bothered watching the thing from start to finish. Best bet would be to head off to the library and see if you can find those old Bathurst annuals that they used to publish post event.
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: TRACK SPEC MA70's?
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Wed, 16 November 2005 02:13
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Wed, 16 November 2005 11:31 |
Wo got any video footage of these? I was too young to know
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I'll check my vid set in the next couple of weeks can't remember too much footage on supra's shitload on the HR31's mainly cos Skaife and Seton etc were driving em.
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