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1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Tue, 27 September 2005 14:16
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Greetings all,
I've searched the site liberally today, and there's a lot of confusing information. I'm interested in a 1GGTE that's for sale, but the injectors are yellow while the ECU has grey connectors and a pinout of 26-16-22. Information here available has been conflicting at times, and the engine I'm looking at conflicts with that information.
According to the Toymods Tech Section:
Version 1: Yellow ECU plugs and Yellow injectors.
version 2: Yellow ECU plugs and pale Green injectors.
Version 3: Grey ECU plugs and pale Green injectors.
Now, it would seem that the ECU is Gen3 and the injectors are Gen1??? I'm going to assume that the color on the injectors is just off, but can someone confirm that the pinout for the ECU is a Gen3? Or give me the part number for an auto trans Gen3 ECU?
Edit: I got the part number off the ECU, it's 89661-24210. This is an automatic transmission Gen 3 ECU correct? Can I just plug in an ECU for a manual transmission and swap in a W58 and be okay? Another thread said that the automatics have some type of ECU for the transmission in addition to the ECU for the engine that will retard the ignition for shifting...and all the time if it's missing. Is this true?
Thanks all,
Joshua
[Updated on: Tue, 27 September 2005 22:45]
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Tue, 27 September 2005 22:42
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That sounds like the correct number of pins for a Gen3 ECU. Don't bother about trying to find a manual ECU, the auto one will work fine.
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Registered: September 2005
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Wed, 28 September 2005 15:43
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Hmm, is it true that the T series engines have the same bellhousing bolt pattern as the G series? Just found that on the toymods.net site That would make fitting a manual a lot easier for me!
Joshua
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Location: NZ
Registered: September 2005
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Wed, 28 September 2005 22:53
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just a quick question about the injectors... my ga70 has the yellow injectors, but i have a spare 1ggteu motor with green injectors. Is there any benefit to swapping the green injectors over?
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I supported Toymods
Location: Perth
Registered: May 2002
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Wed, 28 September 2005 23:07
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HELBND wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 06:53 | just a quick question about the injectors... my ga70 has the yellow injectors, but i have a spare 1ggteu motor with green injectors. Is there any benefit to swapping the green injectors over?
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Not unless you have an aftermarket ECU, because while they are bigger, the ECU isn't tuned for them.
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Location: NZ
Registered: September 2005
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Wed, 28 September 2005 23:20
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ah ok cheers. so itd be better to just wait until i get an aftermarket computer, and just get some bigger ones anyway
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Thu, 29 September 2005 07:35
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Yellow = 295cc, Green = 315cc
So there is 3/5th's of bugger all difference in the two.
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Location: townsville NQLD
Registered: February 2004
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Thu, 29 September 2005 12:53
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jonnyincognito wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 01:43 | Hmm, is it true that the T series engines have the same bellhousing bolt pattern as the G series? Just found that on the toymods.net site That would make fitting a manual a lot easier for me!
Joshua
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i wouldnt be using a T50 behind a 1ggte
it would be like using toothpick for a tailshaft
unless of course you can get a T -->w55/8 bellhousing
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Thu, 29 September 2005 13:29
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He means that T->W5x and G->W5x bellhousings are identical.
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Registered: September 2005
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Thu, 29 September 2005 14:17
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CrUZsida wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 23:29 | He means that T->W5x and G->W5x bellhousings are identical.
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Yes, this is what I was getting at. It will make finding a bell housing if needed easier. Not by much, but easier. At least there are 3T's that were available here that had this setup.
Joshua
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Registered: September 2005
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Mon, 17 October 2005 21:53
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Okay, I'm confused again. Is there a difference between a 1GGTE and a 1GGTEU engine, or are they exactly the same? If there are differences, can someone tell me what they are?
Joshua
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I supported Toymods
Location: Australia
Registered: November 2003
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Tue, 18 October 2005 00:59
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U basically means emmissions Japan.
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Registered: September 2005
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Tue, 18 October 2005 01:04
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What are the physical differences in these Japanese emmissions, and shouldn't all 1GGTE's that are JDM imports then be GTEU's?
Joshua
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I supported Toymods
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Tue, 18 October 2005 01:16
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All 1GGTE's are JDM, but the U was dropped after a certain year.
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Registered: September 2005
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Re: 1GGTE Generations, I searched and now I'm confused.
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Tue, 18 October 2005 02:25
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Would that mean that any engine that was classed as a 1GGTEU would probably be a earlier generation? Like a 2nd gen? I want to make sure I get a 3rd gen too Thanks for the help by the way, hard to find anywhere else!
Joshua
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