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Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 02:48
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Guys, if you had a budget, of say 30k dedicated to a track car, what would you get? (Toyota only tho)
Im thinking a KE25, with a worked 4age?
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Campbelltown
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November 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 02:57
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Corona with a 1ggte  , maybe a mr2 AW11 with 4agte or an MA61 with a 1jzgte.
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:13
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My car (KE25 4AGTE) but with a 4 bar linked rear end (just like the TE27 TTE cars had), roll cage, big arse brakes all round, race seats and a stripped interior.
I would like to actually do this apart from stripping the interior. One day, one day.............
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:19
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 12:48 |
Guys, if you had a budget, of say 30k dedicated to a track car, what would you get? (Toyota only tho)
Im thinking a KE25, with a worked 4age?
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it will totally depend on the rules. can you substitute suspensions parts/types? can you increase track or change steering? does it have to be same family engine? can you have FI.
it also depends what type of car you want.
if you are talking a serious track car you would have to go to a tube frame and midmount, but that kinda kills the budget a bit (esp the gearbox)...
for my 20-30K, i think it would be hard to go past a KE1X/KE2X with AE86 cross-member and steering rack/column, whatever brakes fit under 15"rims, T series diff, and a 6 point cage... for motor... 4AGE, with a twin-screw SC on about 1-1.2bar boost, and a W series box.
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if you keep the weight down, you might sneak under 700kg, and with 300-320Nm torque everywhere, it would be rather formidable on the track.
as you go up in weight, you need more and more power to get the thing going, but maybe around 8-900kg, there should be a bit more weight to improve handling and outright grip (again, depends what tracks/surfaces you plan to run on...)..
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:21
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| ke382TG wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 13:13 |
My car (KE25 4AGTE) but with a 4 bar linked rear end (just like the TE27 TTE cars had), roll cage, big arse brakes all round, race seats and a stripped interior.
I would like to actually do this apart from stripping the interior. One day, one day.............
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yar, pretty much, except with rack and pinion, and an extra 3-4" track to help stability...
it'd be like a spoontah but without the fat arse 
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Sydney
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March 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:24
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oldcorollas, not a dedicated track car, but also street driven, Id like to say the IS200 at this stage is awesome, but as its an expensive car, im hesistant to push it harder (Due to damaging it)
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:28
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eh? so you mean 30K of mods to ANY car? or 30K budget?
if it's 30K budget, i still say ke382TG's rolla with 4 link and extra track etc (and SC )
if it's 30K of mods....
i'd still say the same...
it can be engineeered as a street car.. just may not be as comfortable as an IS200 on the street (may not.. HAH  )
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:31
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yar, pretty much, except with rack and pinion, and an extra 3-4" track to help stability...
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I forgot about the racoon peanut, I reckon that could be a worthy upgrade for sure.
Some TE27 flares and increased track, it would look like a nugget 
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Location:
Sydney
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March 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:32
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also, any engine, and FI!
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:46
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KE25 with 13B peripheral port Wouldn't be too street friendly though and fuel would hurt the wallet.
AE86 with Beams 3SGE from an Altezza
KPxx Starlet with Beams 3SGE from an Altezza
RA23 with Beams 3SGE form an Altezza
RA23 with Honda s2000 motor
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 03:58
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hmm.. KE70 + 3SGTE, but with twin-screw SC running 16-18psi on gas 
that should get you close to 360-400Nm of torque.... should go ok
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sydney
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May 2002
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 29 September 2005 11:08
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My KE20 with I bit of fine tuning, better front brake,better rear setup,full cage,new computer, bigger turbo etc etc etc
Hey thats the way it is heading 
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Location:
brisbane
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October 2004
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Wed, 12 October 2005 08:11
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atm I am building a KE35 for IPRA
Race specs 3sge , altezza box , liteace with LSD rearend & watt link , 4x50mm TB , Motec pro , lightened body ... adjustable suspensions , will find out how good by Jan 2006 .. 
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Banned by his request
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moved to tamworth
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July 2002
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Wed, 12 October 2005 10:08
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depends what class in over in IP an rx7 would be hard to beat.in unders the lightest with the most grunt with a good foot print.
mick
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 13 October 2005 02:29
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| rx-3 ip wrote on Wed, 12 October 2005 18:11 |
atm I am building a KE35 for IPRA
Race specs 3sge , altezza box , liteace with LSD rearend & watt link , 4x50mm TB , Motec pro , lightened body ... adjustable suspensions , will find out how good by Jan 2006 ..
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OOOO sounds goood~~~
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Location:
Melbourne
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November 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 13 October 2005 09:17
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Why must it be a Toyota? Nissan Silvias are pretty good, lots of support, easy to get a fast one up and running for under $30,000.
Why type of track work do you wanna do? Do you want to compete in an actual devision? If so, what devision would be handy to know. If not, then get whatever you like. It doesn't matter.
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nth ringwood, Victoria
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August 2002
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Thu, 13 October 2005 10:14
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sounds like rx3-ip has bought steve reynolds purple 3sge club car
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Fri, 14 October 2005 10:34
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| KOFFEE-BLACK wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 12:48 |
Guys, if you had a budget, of say 30k dedicated to a track car, what would you get? (Toyota only tho)
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| Shraka wrote on Thu, 13 October 2005 19:17 |
Why must it be a Toyota? Nissan Silvias are pretty good, lots of support, easy to get a fast one up and running for under $30,000.
Why type of track work do you wanna do? Do you want to compete in an actual devision? If so, what devision would be handy to know. If not, then get whatever you like. It doesn't matter.
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to start with... another excellent post here 
1) this is a TOYOTA forum.
2) KOFFEE is asking YOUR opinion on what car YOU would get
3) being a TOYOTA forum, he asked what TOYOTA you would get.
seriously why would anyoen give two hoots abotu a silvia in this thread. and why are you asking HIM what HE wants to do...
he is asking YOU what YOU would get...
sigh..... didn't even read the first post did you
edit: i suppose you can't expect much more from a HONDUH driver
[Updated on: Fri, 14 October 2005 10:36]
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Location:
Sydney, Peakhurst
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May 2004
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Banned by his request
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moved to tamworth
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July 2002
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 18 October 2005 08:50
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| tripmcneily wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 18:11 |
just for old corollas man, i am announcing my track car is a MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION 1 RS....
Now i am ze enemy....no?
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look i think its a bit harsh you calling your lancer "really shit,RS"they are are good cars.there are my fav mitsushity.but dont think its much of a worry for old rolla because its an oner 2 litre car and heavy,besides the fact it will have a restrictor.when the overs have to run restrictors the heavy 4wd cars dont do so well when the field is kept to around the 380hp mark and 4wd saps more energy than a 2wd.we live we learn.
mick
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ghetto area 2745
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November 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 18 October 2005 10:02
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kp60 starlet with peugeot 205t16 flared kit fitted with quad headlight front fitted with a 200bhp 16v 4age with a quaife box and hilux diff with a 5.1 ratio===
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moved to tamworth
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July 2002
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 18 October 2005 10:12
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some one been smoking four leaf clovers again?
lmao
mick
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ghetto area 2745
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 18 October 2005 10:17
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ther is 1 that rallys in ireland but fitted with a bda ford engine and a split gearbox??? wtf and it is 1 of the best 2wd clubman cars there is and no smokey smokey tonight and as for evo 1,2,3 lancers fitted with dog boxes they are a prick off a thing my brother car jamed in 2nd gear in the middle of a stage....not good
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Sydney, Peakhurst
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May 2004
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 18 October 2005 10:54
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king mick, you need to relax...
and as for the statement about evo 1,2,3 dog boxes jamming up, well, thats some bad luck, but it happens, not just to evo's either, i seem to recall an incident involving a rather well backed, well known v8 supercar team having similar issues.
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 18 October 2005 17:01
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| tripmcneily wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 18:11 |
just for old corollas man, i am announcing my track car is a MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION 1 RS....
Now i am ze enemy....no?
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no, you are not zee airnamee...
just misguided
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Location:
melbourne
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February 2005
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 02:47
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| Corona RT142 wrote on Thu, 29 September 2005 12:57 |
Corona with a 1ggte , maybe a mr2 AW11 with 4agte or an MA61 with a 1jzgte.
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couldnt say it better... apart maybe a 1uz with shick turboz in the rona.
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Sun, 23 October 2005 09:12
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| tripmcneily wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 20:54 |
king mick, you need to relax...
and as for the statement about evo 1,2,3 dog boxes jamming up, well, thats some bad luck, but it happens, not just to evo's either, i seem to recall an incident involving a rather well backed, well known v8 supercar team having similar issues.
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why relax?i wasnt getting up tight at all!if you read what i said i was taking the piss!
mick
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Location:
Newcastle
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June 2004
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Wed, 26 October 2005 04:52
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Honda S2000 powered AE86 trueno.
Red Trueno with runfree kit and deeeep dish
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Mon, 31 October 2005 11:34
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MA61 + 2JZGE + intercooled + Roots based supercharger = good times.
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Toymods Social Secretary
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Sydney
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July 2002
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Mon, 31 October 2005 12:21
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glen you are ghey
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Mon, 31 October 2005 12:25
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How about MZ21 then?
Got boost?
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Kita-Ku, Sapporo, Japan
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January 2003
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Mon, 31 October 2005 15:04
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change the rooter to a lysholm 2300... and you got yourself a deal
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Official Cruise Dude
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liverpool
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 01 November 2005 06:28
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| kingmick wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 19:12 |
| tripmcneily wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 20:54 |
king mick, you need to relax...
and as for the statement about evo 1,2,3 dog boxes jamming up, well, thats some bad luck, but it happens, not just to evo's either, i seem to recall an incident involving a rather well backed, well known v8 supercar team having similar issues.
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why relax?i wasnt getting up tight at all!if you read what i said i was taking the piss!
mick
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yes and i think you have been doing to much of that lately...
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 01 November 2005 07:43
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and let me guess puzzle gay boy!you have been talking to the other gay boy of the same persuasion this afternoon.
mick
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Tue, 01 November 2005 08:49
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| kingmick wrote on Tue, 01 November 2005 18:43 |
and let me guess puzzle gay boy!you have been talking to the other gay boy of the same persuasion this afternoon.
mick
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mick you have been a naughty boy now go and stand in the corner 
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Adelaide
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November 2005
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Location:
adelaide
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October 2005
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Re: Your Track Weapon?
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Mon, 12 December 2005 11:44
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Had a look at 2 3sgte powered ke30's belonging to the Sharpe bros. here in sa, couple of weeks ago very fkn nice, as for a track weapon ,mines a ST185 GT4 and ive gone over your $30,000 & still spending 
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