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October 2003
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gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Fri, 30 September 2005 02:21
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hey guys im looking for a gearbox and a bellhousing to bolt up to a 3S-GTE that im converting to RWD.
any1 know what box and housing i can use??
Cheers
Matty
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Perth
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July 2004
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Fri, 30 September 2005 02:48
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I think you can use a 3T-GTE bellhousing!
I had my samwich plate at a mates place when I was looking at fitting 6-speed box.
and he compared it to a FWD 3S-GE engine and said it looked like a match!
ive got a bellhousing/plate if you want to test this out yourself.
-DAvid
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Townsville North Qld
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June 2003
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Fri, 30 September 2005 06:41
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Ive heard that the W55 box from the SA63 celicas fit without huge dramas... look into that.
Cheers, Owen
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Perth
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October 2003
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Fri, 30 September 2005 07:14
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cheers for the replies, the only concern would be fitting in the starter motor wouldnt it?? being that the 3SGTE fits in from the gearbox side not the egine side if im not mistakin.
The engine i am using is the 165 GT4 engine if that makes a difference.
David i may take you up on the offer of checking it myself sometime in the near future.
Cheers
matty
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Location:
Perth
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October 2003
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Fri, 30 September 2005 07:17
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its the Group A water to air intercooler aswell if that makes.
Cheers
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Location:
Perth
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July 2004
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Fri, 30 September 2005 07:51
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mm yea.
and I think the dizzy location would want to be poking out into the firewall when its turned around like this..
-DAvid
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CAIRNS
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May 2004
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Fri, 30 September 2005 12:10
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Altezza box (IS200) 6 speed g/box, Check out the tech section on 3sge/gte rwd there is a good thread going.
Cheers.
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Location:
Perth
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July 2004
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Fri, 30 September 2005 15:25
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nod nod.
seeing box fits my 3T, and my box fits 3S.
depends if got 1k for gearbox though..
-DAvid
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Townsville North Qld
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June 2003
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Location:
Perth
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October 2003
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Sat, 01 October 2005 01:02
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as for the starter motor though, it cant go on the normal side because thats where the turbo and oil return lines are. Do you know if the six speed box has the starter motor on the drivers side rather than the passengers? im thinking if i can find a box with the starter on the drivers side i shouldnt have to many dramas.
As for the dizzy, that isnt the closest thing to the firewall, the water outlet will be, so i may either cut the firewall and weld a bulge in there or i may just allow the engine to sit that far forward to clear it, if that leaves enough room for the radiator.
Cheers
Matty
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Location:
Redbank Plains,near Ipswi...
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May 2002
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Sat, 01 October 2005 01:35
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I have got a proper 3S rear drive bellhousing & back plate for W series alloy box. $150 + freight.
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Location:
Perth
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July 2004
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Sat, 01 October 2005 02:11
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the 6speed box has the starter on the passenger side...
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Townsville North Qld
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June 2003
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Sun, 02 October 2005 00:29
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All of this is explained in tech and conversions... do a search in there... in fact i think they have linx to the articles in the sticky posts. From what i have seen, ppl just make new rear water outlets to suit. As for the starter motor problem... sumone has found a solution... i think the SA63 box has it on the drivers side.
Cheers, Owen
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Location:
Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Wed, 05 October 2005 05:50
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The Altezza 6 speed box definitely has the starter on the intake side.
This gearbox never came in a turbo car, but is supposed to be very similar to the box that came in the turbo charged Nissan S15 200SX. So is probably fine for a mild turbo set up.
I have one for sale if you are interested with flywheel, clutch and throw out gear including slave cylinder, starter motor and shifter. Price is $1500 for the package + any shipping required.
PM me if you're interested in it.
Otherwise I have seen a SA63 bellhousing modified to place the starter on the inlet side, but I don't think it was a cheap exercise.
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Location:
Perth
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July 2004
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Wed, 05 October 2005 06:06
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intake side, or exhaust side.
which side is the inlet on for the 3S? 
here are pics of the gearbox anyway.
http://www.ningenjanai.net/
-DAvid
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Location:
Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Wed, 05 October 2005 13:44
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Setsuna, that's not an Altezza box to go on a 3SGE. I believe its an IS200 box to go behind a 1GG. Box is essentially the same, but the bellhousing is different
Starter motor is on the wrong side.
The Altezza starter and clutch lever is on the right side when you look from the back.
BTW SA63 starter is on the Left. I have a couple of these too if anyone wants one. One has a W57 attached.
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Perth
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July 2004
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Wed, 05 October 2005 14:38
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hrmns.
welp I thought that the altezza WAS the IS200 
-DAvid
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Location:
Melbourne
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September 2002
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Re: gbox & bellhousing suit RWD 3S-GTE
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Thu, 06 October 2005 03:08
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Altezza is RS200 and has the Beams 3SGE
IS200 is essentially the same body but with a 1GG, six cylinder in it.
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