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Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 30 September 2005 10:56
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Hi all, just thought I'd post up a few pics of my car as it was, is and in a few weeks will be.
As it stands;
MA61
5ME and AT
standard everything
As it will be;
7MGTE (I have 2 of these engines now)
custom FMIC (I have this now too)
Lexus AFM (on it's way)
550cc Injectors (on their way too)
Apexi SAFC (ditto)
Simmons FR17 8 and 9 inch with 235/40/17 and 255/40/17 (ordered and paid for yesterday, ouch!)
custom 3 inch dump (have this)
Autometer boost gauge (so purty)
Walbro 255 in tank pump (ordered)
Gizzmo Boost controller (ebay special)
Cruzida's z32 brake upgrade (all parts currently being either machined, re-kitted and sandblasted or drilled as we speak)
At this point I'd like to thank a few members for their help so far with this;
JAZE: for being a cool guy, for supplying me a veritable butt-load of MA61 parts for next to nothing, for finding me a 7MGTE conversion that is pretty much a straight bolt in to my car and helping me and Joorsh remove it from Joorsh's car, for offering to help my very nooby self with the install side of things (hopefully I wont have to call on you too much) and for sacrificing the suspension in his Corolla wagon to take the 7M et al back to my place, go teh rolla!
Joorsh: for supplying one of the 7MGTEs, FMIC and piping, ECU, wiring etc and helping me and JAZE remove it all from his car (and for getting his dog out of the way for most of the day/ night)
Draven: for pointing me in the right direction for (relatively) cheap simmons wheels
Cruzida: for his brake upgrade and for answering more than a few of my undoubtedly annoying PMs 
Yian: For suggesting that I PM JAZE in the first place, otherwise I'd still be scratching my head wondering how the f%^$ I was going to get the 7M I just bought to fit and run!
OK, now the pics;
The beast as I bought it 2 months ago
As it is now
[Updated on: Fri, 30 September 2005 13:44]
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 30 September 2005 10:57
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New bits, soon to be installed
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I Supported Toymods
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Lwr Templestowe, Melbourne
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 30 September 2005 13:12
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OOooohhh purdy!! 
Good stuff man... glad to hear that JAZE and joorsh's engine came in handy.
Looking food and more pics during the conversion! 
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Mon, 03 October 2005 07:14
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Today the 5M is goooone. Took a bit longer than I's hoped, then again I did do it by myself! If anyone wants a free 5M and auto box, done 165k only, doesnt smoke but has exhaust leak at manifold, PM me!
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Perth, WA
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September 2003
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Tue, 04 October 2005 04:25
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.. ahh .. another 7M mk2 to compete with! 
wish i had the cash to move as quickly as you with the conversion..
should be a sweet ride when all those parts arrive and the conversion is done!
look forward to the updates.
ps.. yes CrUZsida is the man! He his helping me with my conversion and I have the utmost confidence in his work.
Damo
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sun, 09 October 2005 10:51
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Intercooler fitted today, engine hopefully in this week sometime....
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Mon, 10 October 2005 12:24
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Gizzmo boost controller showed up today and...... 7M is looking pretty in it's new home
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I Supported Toymods
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Mon, 10 October 2005 15:11
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Looking good dude
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Mon, 10 October 2005 15:34
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Thanks man, yeah, it's getting there! Simmons are ready in one more week, cant wait
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Mon, 10 October 2005 15:36
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| whatthe? wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 01:34 |
Thanks man, yeah, it's getting there! Simmons are ready in one more week, cant wait
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Ahhh... u bastard!!  Wish I had that kind of money to throw around. Trying to find some wheels to clear the impending z32 brake upgrade I will be doing... *sigh*
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Mon, 10 October 2005 15:39
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| Yian wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 01:36 |
| whatthe? wrote on Tue, 11 October 2005 01:34 |
Thanks man, yeah, it's getting there! Simmons are ready in one more week, cant wait
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Ahhh... u bastard!! Wish I had that kind of money to throw around. Trying to find some wheels to clear the impending z32 brake upgrade I will be doing... *sigh*
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Yeah, that was the problem I had, had to get them made up with custom offsets +18 at the front, +0 at the rear. They'll look sweet tho....
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Mon, 17 October 2005 10:01
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Today, with the help of my good friend Jason, a lot more has been done!
Gearbox crossmember fitted and tailshaft changed, holes cut in enginebay and intercooler piping fitted. Brake and clutch pedals either changed or fitted along with new clutch master and slave cylinders.
Alternator wiring traced back through car loom and re-routed to passenger side of car then fitted to alternator, radiator shroud purchased and modified, radiator re-fitted. VS commodore top pipe modified to fit as new top pipe, ma61 unit will do the job for bottom.
Dump pipe fitted and engine loom pushed/pulled through firewall and 7M ECU connected. Oil cooler fitted. Lexus AFM and K&N pod filter fitted
Some photos below......
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Tue, 18 October 2005 15:21
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Purty new brakes are now on, props once again to peewee for his information and spacers etc.
Also pictured below, the mess I have made (well, I had Michael and Glen to help me, thanks guys!) of my interior. Hopefully can get it all back together in the next few days. Should be simmons day tomorrow too!!
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Wed, 19 October 2005 02:02
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| whatthe? wrote on Tue, 18 October 2005 23:21 |
Purty new brakes are now on, props once again to peewee for his information and spacers etc.
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No probs dude.
Its always good when stuff bolts on with no messing around.
Tis what the kit was designed for!
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 21 October 2005 06:51
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Simmons on today!
Started it up yesterday, ran like shit so pulled off cam covers and black strip thing over plugs, cleaned out oil and gunk and crap out of spark plug area, fitted new cam cover gaskets, spark leads and platinum plugs, fitted walbro pump and gave it a fresh tank of optimax and a bottle of injector cleaner and sure enough......
still running like shit! Not sure where to go from here, could be electrical, could be the fact it's running through a dump pipe with no other exhaust system (shouldn't sound like it's running on 4 cylinders tho, should it?)
Ah well, we struggle on.....
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 21 October 2005 06:55
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Looking haawwwttt.
Start with the easy things, while its running, pull one lead off at a time, see whats not sparking.
Could be dead lead or 2, could be dead coil, could be dead injector or 2.
Make sure the timing is spot on.
Also, something could have gotten unplugged easily (ie, a coil)
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 21 October 2005 07:38
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Bummer, have to pull all that crap off the top of the motor again
Thanks for the tips, I cant see it being leads or plugs as I replaced them and nothing changed but maybe a coil? They all seemed to be plugged in when I had the pack off to change camcover gaskets yesterday, maybe one is dead. If it's an injector or 2 that'll be ok because I have some 550cc sards I was going to fit along with my lexus AFM after I had everything running ok. This motor was running in joorshes car only 3 weeks ago, wouldnt have thought things would have karked it between then and now, bugger!
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Perth, WA
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September 2003
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 21 October 2005 08:10
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simmons look phatstick! 
hows the dish on the back! nice one!
how wide are they?... and size tyres you're running?..
Damo
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 21 October 2005 10:19
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Yeah, I like 'em
They are 8" at the front, 9" at the back, running 235 40 17s at front and 255 with same profile at the rear
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September 2004
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 21 October 2005 12:01
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did you say you had no exhaust? if not then that would make it run poorly. love the wheels too btw
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 21 October 2005 12:41
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My 7m ran without an exhaust just fine  A tad on the loud side, but it ran perfectly.
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Fri, 21 October 2005 22:53
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Yeah, I thought that it should run fine, turbos need to breathe after all and backpressure isnt critical like a NA engine
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Fri, 21 October 2005 23:18
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Was gunna suggest that maybe you weren't running the 02 sensor, but I just re-read and saw that you are running the dump pipe with the O2 sensor attached...
Hrmmmm....
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sat, 22 October 2005 01:40
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Yeah, it's on there nice and tight. Started it up again today and it at least idled, seems to be getting better. Maybe just needs a good run? Josh also tells me that the aftermarket FPR and the timing has been dicked around with to suit the setup he had in his car. I might just wait til I get the exhaust on then start stuffing around with things to see what improves the situation.
Thanks all for the suggestions
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sat, 22 October 2005 05:33
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Bonnet on and ready for the tow truck to take it off to the exhaust shop on Monday!
Tomorrow will be my first day off for weeks!!
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sat, 22 October 2005 14:03
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Well, it was only a matter of time before I had to display my total dumbass-edness.
So here goes; failing any good diagrams or pics online after extensive googling:
1) Is this the way my BOV goes? makes sense to me but it doesn't vent boost in any audible way.... (pics 1 & 2)
2) This may be because I'm not getting any boost when I rev the crap out of my engine (not sure why that would be, IC pipes are all tight), I can hear the turbo but the boost gauge says nada, is this port (the one my boost valve and IBC are plumbed into) a one way valve for vacuum only? The hose is the one with the black zip tie out of the manifold, goes into a t-piece, one end goes to boost gauge hose (clear hose you can see just above large brake booster vacuum hose) and the other end goes to boost input of IBC (Pics 3 & 4)
3) Although the manual doesnt say anything about this I'm assuming I have to actually drive the car to set boost on my gizzmo IBC. Can anyone confirm/deny this for me? Or is it a problem with the outlet Ive hooked the hose to per last question?
That'll do for now, I feel dumb enough asking just these. Pics for first 2 questions are below.
Cheers
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sat, 22 October 2005 15:41
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I'd look at something unplugged - when it was pulled off joorsh's car it was running perfectly, so in theory it should run perfectly again now.
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sat, 22 October 2005 15:51
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He was running this BOV though, not the stock one....
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sat, 22 October 2005 22:35
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Where does the silver looking 'braided' vacuum line coming from? The one that goes under the massive brake booster line?
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sat, 22 October 2005 23:40
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| Yian wrote on Sun, 23 October 2005 08:35 |
Where does the silver looking 'braided' vacuum line coming from? The one that goes under the massive brake booster line?
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From top/middle of intake manifold to charcoal cannister. I believe vaccum only (wouldn't want to be boosting into that, surely!) It's the same place it was originally routed to in Joorshes car anyway
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sat, 22 October 2005 23:57
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Oh okay... I've run a vacuum line from the nipple at the back of the manifold (where you've teed the boostguage and EBC) to the metal line under the brake booster one.
My boost gauge line is teed off the FPR. Seems to work...?
Pictures. Ignore the build-up of crystalised shit on my heater thermostat plug thingo.
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sun, 23 October 2005 00:05
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Ahh, bugger it. I'll just wait til I can drive it and see what happens. I've been told I probably won't make any boost just from revving in neutral anyway. Thanks for the pics Yian, those plugs look crusty with that red shit on 'em 
Hey, I noticed on your coil packs that the earth wire is now under the mounting bolt instead of screwed the metal plate they sit on, did you snap that shitty little terminal as well? As soon as I moved the pack that thing busted off and I couldnt get that shitful screw undone, just destroyed the philips drive in like 2 secs
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Sun, 23 October 2005 01:46
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yeah, i was gonna say you won't make boost if you're just free-revving...
and, as far as i know most boost controllers like to be tuned on a long stretch of road in 3rd gear....
but i might be wrong....
looks great by the way
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Wed, 26 October 2005 07:50
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Ok, got the car back today, exhaust looks sweet, will post pics soon.
Problem is it's still running like shit. I've pulled the coil packs off and tested one cylinder at a time, all of them make a difference when unpluged from the pack except cyl 3. Pulled out the plug and wired it back up to the coil pack, getting good spark across the gap. I'm thinking perhaps dead injector as unplugging cyl 3 from the coilpack makes absolutely no difference whne it's running but the plug from cyl 3 still sparks well. Before I go ahead and start what looks like a pretty big job (replacing an injector) does anyone have any other suggestions? I havent run a compression test on cyl 3 but 3 weeks ago it was running fine in joorshes car so I really doubt that's it.
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Re: Matts MA61 (56k warning)
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Wed, 26 October 2005 11:23
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Problem fixed, was loose wiring
Pics of teh cannon
Things to do now that it's alive!
1) find and fix oil leak coming from somewhere around the remote oil filter attachment on the block
2) Wire up dash and safc, do something about fuel pump relay (or lack thereof) and figure out why accesories stay on after key is switched off (including fuel pump dammit!). It's really weird, you connect up the battery, nothing is on. Turn the key, accessories come on, engine starts, all good. Turn off key, accessories stay on, but engine shuts down. It's got me stuffed. Ive offered to pay a couple of ppl to help with final wiring, no takers yet it seems....
3) Put dash back together again
4) Check bank balance and cry
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