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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 13:03
 
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howm uch are bilstein's anyways?
are they going to shorten the strut?
advantages of coilover: adjustability, having the ease of choosing a variety of spring rates, the wank factor, the ability to lower your car as you wish, better performance than oem (with the stuff your using)
disadvantages: actually have to maintain the sleeves, darn expensive (define expensive!  ), i'm not sure but i don't think they are legal either
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Hornsby, Sydney
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October 2002
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 13:08
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i think coil overs are very useful as long as youre going to use them.
they are adjustable, but not quickly, and i cannot imagine myself adjusting them very often, especailly after a year or so.
if you want a very good suspension set up for the street, a couple of grand will be very suffient for top range everything.
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Hornsby, Sydney
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October 2002
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 13:09
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i thought they were legal but probably cause alot of people have them, never really looked into it.
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Brisbane, QLD
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August 2005
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 13:20
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coilovers are pure sex, apart from that if you're not looking for a great massive amount of adjustability its probly cheaper and easier to just go upgraded standard style
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Lost in the K hole
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May 2002
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 13:47
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coilovers = mechanical bling IMHO 
seriously, 95% of useres will NEVER adjust them, and even then, serious useres will tweak them a bit, then 95% of those will hardly ever tweak them again.
i used to be national tech support for fox shocks, go to all the races, set up bikes, do custom rigs in the factory etc etc...
guess how many times i tweaked a coilover??
set and forget.
for the price get a set of custom wound springs made and spend the remaining cashola on something more useful
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Location:
Adelaide
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July 2005
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 14:22
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coilovers give u a bit more room for rims...
seen a lot of silvias with tyres on the spring perch!
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July 2005
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 16:38
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same will go for coil over sleeves, just cut and weld em onto the strut mounts.
and you can get all 4 corners for less then $200USD
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Perth
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July 2002
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 17:44
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| ed_ma61 wrote on Tue, 04 October 2005 21:47 |
coilovers = mechanical bling IMHO
seriously, 95% of useres will NEVER adjust them, and even then, serious useres will tweak them a bit, then 95% of those will hardly ever tweak them again.
for the price get a set of custom wound springs made and spend the remaining cashola on something more useful
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Agreed.
Unless you change springs regularly or set up the corner weights they aren't required.
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Banned by his request
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moved to tamworth
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July 2002
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Tue, 04 October 2005 20:28
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just get a set of 4way penske's and then spend hours ajusting them,changing valving and shims and you will have as fast as it gets in terms of shocks.lol coilovers a good,but if its more for show then do something else.
mick
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May 2002
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Wed, 05 October 2005 00:06
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The advice above is valid, if the GT4 has a range of decent shocks and springs available without the need for fitment of height adjustable coil-overs then don't worry about it.
My car has height adjustable coil-overs because no springs were available in the rate needed, the spring perch rubbed on the tyre (car came with 12" wheels standard), the strut tube was being shortened and it was going to cost 1/10th of stuff all to get a threaded sleeve attached to the strut given what needed to be done anyway.
I have adjusted my setup a total of about 5 times for various reasons, I will be trying a different spring rate shortly too which will be a simple process given the current setup.
I have purchased "custom" wound srpings in the past for non-automotive use and was less than impressed with the consistency in sping rates. For the intended use I had for them it meant they were useless. Also the inherent characteristic of a spring seemed to be somewhat lacking with a few items
YGTO4A, looking at the components you are talking about I am going to guess you have been out to see Chris at Inline? He did the work on my car and did a good job.
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Brisbane
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May 2002
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Wed, 05 October 2005 00:06
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An advantage of coilovers (in some situations) is the greater range of camber adjustment they allow simply because they're so much narrower than your typical McPherson strut. I can get 5 degrees of adjustment out of my current coilover setup, but I doubt I would have got even one degree with the original springs!
But yeah, that just agrees with the above - the only advantage coilovers will give you is greater adjustability. Think carefully about how often you'd really want to adjust your suspension, and let that guide your decision. If you're like 99% of people you'll realise it's completely unnecessary. Good dampers and custom-wound springs will do exactly the same job for a much lower price!
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May 2002
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Wed, 05 October 2005 00:12
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Just noticed these comments:
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Not sure what you mean by this??? But a threaded sleeve welded to your strut tube is something I would consider a low to no maintenance item.
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i'm not sure but i don't think they are legal either
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They are completely legal in the ACT as long as a minimum ground clearance of 100mm is maintained. Check in your own state before purchasing.
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Canberra
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November 2004
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Wed, 05 October 2005 03:59
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| ke382TG wrote on Wed, 05 October 2005 10:06 |
YGTO4A, looking at the components you are talking about I am going to guess you have been out to see Chris at Inline? He did the work on my car and did a good job.
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You have hit the nail on the head ke382TG he is the only place I will take my car when it comes to suspension
Thanks for the info every one it looks like every one seems to recommend a standard setup.
But will there be a difference in the comfort of ride and handling between the two?
Cheers
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Re: Coilover V Standard Suspension
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Wed, 05 October 2005 04:33
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Same YGT04A, Chris is very meticulous and respects the vehicles he works on. Even if you do have to wait a little longer sometimes, it's worth it.
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But will there be a difference in the comfort of ride and handling between the two?
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If both setups use the same shock absorbers and same sring rates then the ride should be virtually identical as far as bump and shock absorption go.
As mentioned above though the coilovers may allow for a greater range of camber and castor adjustment which may be benficial to the handling. They may also allow the height to be set a little more precisely than if the original spring mounting setup is retained.
In the end if you tell Chris what you want he will set you up with a pretty decent suspension package.
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