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January 2005
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E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Sun, 09 October 2005 01:07
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Howdy,
Well I finally got my E58 LSD intalled into the MR2. A machine shop bored the hole in the 'front' side of the box and a rubber lip seal was pressed in and it looks absolutely factory! Then I simply took the E51 shifter and bolted it in, and bolted on the the external E51 shifter parts...truly bolt up! I could feel the shifter moves more freely straighy away compared to the E51.
The short passenger side drive shaft was a perfect fit, all that was required was a 22mm hub nut since the threaded portion of the E58 stub axle is 22mm instead of 19mm like the SC MR2. Splines are identical.
The longer driver side axle however is a problem!
It is too long by about atleast 40mm or something. For the meantime I found the E51 shaft can do the job, but its gearbox end is designed to have a c-clip, unlike the E58, so the axle doesn't go in far enough by about 2-3mm I'd say. It in there for now, and the oil seal is fine, but it's not ideal.
Is there someone out there who has solved this little issue with another toyota part? Does Anyone know if any SW20 drive shafts can be used?
Cheers, Nick
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Sun, 09 October 2005 11:31
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all the e58 into aw11's ive seen use custom billet driveshafts
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Location:
Perth
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January 2005
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
Registered:
September 2004
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Sun, 09 October 2005 12:03
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yup i belive gunmetal grey 87 uses billet shafts but he didnt put them in some1 else did however i think from memory some1 else that put custom shafts into his ae82 with a 6speed celica gearbox it cost him arround the $800 mark
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Location:
Perth
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January 2005
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E58 passenger side axle on AW11 picture
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Tue, 11 October 2005 02:21
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Hi,
This is the axle I am having trouble with. If the straight section was only approx. 40mm shorter it would be PERFECT! Does anyone know another toyota axle that would be like this?
Regards, Nick
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Location:
Adelaide
Registered:
January 2004
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Re: E58 passenger side axle on AW11 picture
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Tue, 11 October 2005 04:52
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Couldn't you just take the shaft to a decent engineering shop and have them shorten it?
People do it axles in rear wheel drive, front engine cars when they cut down diffs, shouldn't be any different 
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 05:17
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that driveshaft is form the fwd corolla or the likes ? i like the equal length shaft setup. that bearing between the innet CV and the gearbox slines mount onto the... engine ? or crossmember.. cent remmeber with and is helf in with a large circlip. are you actually musing that mount top use the equal length shafts ? iirc the sw20 does something like this too.
the shaft off the e51 i couldnt imsgaine would hold in too well ? jsut given the e51 uses the clips on the shaft where the e58 shafts will be held in with the large clip near the innet cv.
i would have suggested perhaps getting the inner splines trimmed back so they were that little bit shorter and fitted nicely. however im not sure if that would be suitable given you need 40mm shorter and also i would be worried about how well it would hold in place ?
i really dont like the idea of cut and shut on the shafts. just feels like asking for trouble. what about gettnig a custom shaft made for the section between the two CV's ?
the guys ive know that have had to get custom shafts done up have all looked at around the $1000 mark for both shafts so i couldnt imagine you wuold be up for too much for just that small section.
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Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 05:25
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$1000 sounds pretty good for custom shaft it would essentially be new shafts considering toyota are "supposed" to charge $1300 for theirs sounds like a good deal to me
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 05:34
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quite honestly there isnt really that much too them. take two appropriate sized piece of steel. machine splines at each end. attach off the shelf purchased cv joint on.
dont get my wrong in not suggesting i can home brew them up but there really isnt *that* much too them.
i know they are insanley strong steel, and very precise in their manufacture but still they are hardly anything *that* odd to produce.
a mate of mine got a set done up for around $1000 although he was in the trade, but i couldnt imagine you would pay too much more then that for them to be made up..
$1300!! *sigh* dont you love the cost of genuine parts. somethings are so well priced. where others are just so horribly priced... 4agze piston < handbrake cable 
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 05:39
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clutch slave cylinder bleed pipe
4age: $25
4agze:$125 and 3 weeks wait
ended up bending a spare n/a one i had
they are made exactly the same except the s/c one is a different shape
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Location:
Adelaide
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January 2004
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 06:04
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AE92 centre console $45 from the wreckers, $18 from toyota
RA23 brake master cylinder somewhere round $750 - $900 or some ridiculous price, $200 for ABS stainless reselvee
I can't understand toyotas pricing on parts, it seems they just pull a number out of a hat sometimes!
Sorry for the thread hijack 
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 06:28
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yeah some bits are so well priced and then you just come across something that is so stupidly priced.
the alternator in mt st184 died.. toyota $900 and 8 weeks out of japan. aftermarket $300. wreckers $80
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Location:
Perth
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January 2005
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 06:30
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Hi,
Yes that shaft is from a front wheel drive Corolla. That bracket bolts onto the block, and shares a bolt with the SC bottom bracket. Although I made a custom bracket (for SC14) I was a clever lad, and designed it to still be compatible with this equal length system...then I got shot down in flames when I went to fit it all and discovered it was too long, even thought the shaft installs perfectly and the brackets mount up nicely etc....grrrr
Does anyone know if there is a shorter version of this shaft? are AE92 and AE101 a different track width? These both had E58 gearboxes I think.
Cheers, Nick.
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 06:36
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my mate has a ae92 gtz with a e52 gearbox... and conveniently his drive shafts are out atm  ill be giving him a hand to put everything back together tomorrow so ill measure them up whilst im at it.
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Location:
Perth
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January 2005
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 10:42
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Hi,
The distance from the 'gearbox spline end' to the 'first CV' is what I'd like to know. Then I can easily compare with my shaft.
Thanks, Nick
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Location:
Newcastle
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July 2003
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 10:57
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no probs, two of the cv boots had blown out and were a hint lacking in grease so he figured it was time for some fresh cv's. so we should get them abck tomorrow and install toorrow night so ill make sure to measure them up then.
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Location:
Canberra
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May 2002
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Tue, 11 October 2005 22:29
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Have a look on www.twobrutal.co.uk they have a bunch of driveshaft info there..
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Location:
Perth
Registered:
January 2005
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Wed, 12 October 2005 03:53
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Hi,
I think I am getting closer to the answer. Apparently one guy I found in the USA used an E153 (late model turbo SW20 MR2) shaft and bolted up the rest of the E51 drive shafts. V6 shafts look similar. See pics.
On that note is anyone here in Perth and have as SW20 shaft lying around? 
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Location:
tas
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June 2002
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Location:
tas
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June 2002
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Wed, 12 October 2005 05:20
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Sorry E58 is a 4A box. Dam that's what i get for forgetting my lunch today. (no energy to think straight) lol
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Location:
Toronto, Downtown
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September 2004
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Wed, 12 October 2005 05:32
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it would be an e51 gearbox for the sw20 i would imagine
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Location:
tas
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June 2002
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Re: E58 now installed into AW11 but a problem remains!
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Wed, 12 October 2005 05:43
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yeah that sounds familiar.
The picture of that driveshaft up further looked exactly the same as the E51 driveshaft.
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